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[marketsurfer]

Quote from justrading:

Why do you assume that anyone who makes money would automatically want to post calls or details of their P&L?

I know a number of people who trade for a living, have done so for years, and who wouldn't dream of doing so.

As for this constant asking for P&L, it is the internet age equivalent of going to a cocktail reception and asking people you meet "How much do you make a year?".

In case you don't know, that is in extremely poor taste.

I disagree-- when you go to a party, you can take in certain cues about a persons success or lack of success-- however, on the internet all you have is claims-- and some of these claims are quite extraordinary-- therefore a higher standard of proof is required. Rememer, these folks JH, ND, etc have all made claims of market success. that is the issue.


By the same logic, these same folks who make money would not be wasting their time posting here at all. However, the guru types who refuse to post real before the fact calls are prolific posters. see the disconnect in your logic?

surf

PS-- I have posted real before the fact calls since 2002-- some are good some are bad but they are overall profitable.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from CalVolibrator:

ok, buddy, name me ONE SINGLE thread at ET where someone consistently made money purely based on technical analysis. Consistently means over a time frame longer than 6 months, with at least 100 trades, live trade entry and exit. None exists! Do not name it, provide the link to it.

Not only this, but EVERY thread that sets out to prove TA, quickly vanishes.

Hind site bias is a very powerful thing and these TA folks are deep into the trap. I knew a guy who was so obsessed with TA that he insisted the market was going up, when it was going down. The human brain is easily fooled--hence the need for the scientific method when dealing with markets and claims.

surf

 

[sheda]

You have a very valid point there, traders who do not use TA spend a hell of a lot of time posting their tops and bottoms, surf for instance hyped up his journal to the max before his act came apart and he was forced to admit its theatrical, I guess TA traders are busy being what they are, traders, in their working hours, where as guys like you and surf are busy setting impressions all day with your theatrics.

Quote from CalVolibrator:

as I expected, money talks bullshit walks. I did not ask for pnl or blotters, I asked real-time entries and exits. If your TA gurus already put up tons of crap over dozens of pages they could as well post entries and exits like others have done.

 

[CalVolibrator]

sure, at least I added more valuable content on the quant and programming side on this site than you probably added in your 6x as many posts as mine. Search for my posts on the technical forums (including AmazingIndustry, btw I myself stated on my first post that I used the nick amazingIndustry before). Do your f.... homework before you accuse others.

Quote from sheda:

You have a very valid point there, traders who do not use TA spend a hell of a lot of time posting their tops and bottoms, surf for instance hyped up his journal to the max before his act came apart and he was forced to admit its theatrical, I guess TA traders are busy being what they are, traders, in their working hours, where as guys like you and surf are busy setting impressions all day with your theatrics.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from sheda:

It would seem surf and a few others actually want to shut this place down. An endless attack on the most accessible method of entering the market which even if he is forced to agree does work for an individual he concludes they are doing it "the hard way" and should give up anyway.

Their message:

You cant learn, even from 18 hours a day and years of study.

Do not try to learn.

Go to a prop shop only or find a professional.

.

You will learn after 18 hours of study. You will learn Technical Analysis. Just like those who study astrology religiously-- you lean astrology. Too bad TA doesn't work in a vacumn or objectively so your study is a waste of time---- why are you so against learning from firms or true professional traders?

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from sheda:

You have a very valid point there, traders who do not use TA spend a hell of a lot of time posting their tops and bottoms, surf for instance hyped up his journal to the max before his act came apart and he was forced to admit its theatrical, I guess TA traders are busy being what they are, traders, in their working hours, where as guys like you and surf are busy setting impressions all day with your theatrics.

The evidence is overwhelmingly against TA, it's super funny to see its last known adherents trying to keep it alive on anonymous message boards---

I guess after I spent 18 hours a day staring at charts, i would feel a vested interest in spreading the word-- however false--- to the world.

surf

 

[bighog]

Quote from bighog:

Men have been using a form of TA/PA for centuries to make decisions about women.

Charts display price action to attract buyers and sellers. Women display curves, bumps, actionable displays just as a wiggle in the walk, jiggles and bounces at strategic spots, etc, etc, etc.

Price action can be displayed by different types of charts, line, ohlo, candycanes, etc. Women display by hair color, movements, perfumes, loose or tight clothes, clothes can reveal more to come or hide the prize.

The list goes on, but much the same.............WE MAKE JUDGEMENTS in life from prior information regardless if the info is subjective or objective.

What we do with all inputs is what determines who wins and who loses.

:eek:

Speaking about judgment's: I just made another one, due to this constant stupid ragging about P/L statements which are for the IRS only................THIS THREAD IS DONE>>>>>>>>>>

 

[sheda]

Quote from marketsurfer:

Hind site bias is a very powerful thing and these TA folks are deep into the trap. I knew a guy who was so obsessed with TA that he insisted the market was going up, when it was going down. The human brain is easily fooled--hence the need for the scientific method when dealing with markets and claims.

surf

That sounds biblical. I remain 100% convinced the top is in for the DJIA. There are powerful forces at work.

The Price Drivers have called the top tic for the year in the DJIA and a substantial multi thousand point decline

The yearly high is 15542----the DJIA CAN NOT surpass this number this year. It may touch it, but it can't go higher.

 

[marketsurfer]

No one cares about P/L statements---- before the fact, real time calls by the prolific TA, success claiming posters are requested. I post real time before the fact calls, why can't they?

Not only do they refuse to participate in the controlled condition experiment known as the combine, EVERY thread that has been started to show TA working has vanished quickly--- the ONL*Y threads that has stood the test of time with real time calls on this site is the SURF REPORTS---

dats a fact, jack.

surf

 

[nitro]

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