The Bern Identity

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Hillary Clinton on why she accepted $675,000 for Wall Street speeches: ‘That's what they offered’

"Hillary Clinton has a simple explanation for why she accepted $675,000 from Goldman Sachs to give three speeches after she was secretary of state.

“That’s what they offered,” Clinton said during CNN’s town hall event in Derry, N.H., on Wednesday. “You know, every secretary of state that I know has done that.”

The Democratic frontrunner was asked by moderator Anderson Cooper if taking such a large payment from a Wall Street bank in 2013 was an “error in judgment” considering she knew she’d be running for president in 2016.

“Well, I didn’t know,” Clinton insisted. “To be honest, I wasn’t — I wasn’t committed to running. I didn’t know whether I would or not.”

“You didn’t think you were going to run for president again?” Cooper asked.

“I didn’t,” she replied. “You know, when I was secretary of state, several times I said, ‘You know, I think I’m done.’ And you know, so many people came to me, started talking to me. The circumstances, the concerns I had about the Republicans taking back the White House, because I think they wrecked what we achieved in the 1990s with 23 million new jobs and incomes going up for everybody. I did not want to see that happen again. I want to defend President Obama’s accomplishments and the progress we’ve made. I want to go further.”.."

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillary-clinton-thats-what-they-offered-152546298.html

 

[Ricter]

Hillary Clinton on why she accepted $675,000 for Wall Street speeches: ‘That's what they offered’

Lol, Occam's razor ftw.

 

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The Republicans are half happy with Hilary, and terrified of Bernie. However, they aren't sure they can beat Hilary, but they are certain they can beat Bernie. They are between a rock and a hard place.

I say, let Bernie be the Democratic nominee, then bring it at election time. If he is beaten by whomever of the republican clowns is the nominee, watch what happens in 2020. The Republican party will probably fracture at the seams after they elect one of these bozos to be president because the American people are already "up to here".

So, I am completely comfortable with either Bernie or a Republican, because either way, destiny will fulfil itself.

Hilary is too centrist and an establishment candidate to change anything, and is also a closet Republican (economically) that will obfuscate American economic and political destiny more than anything else.

 

[jem]

Many said similar things about Obama.

Now Iran has billions to fund terrorism and nukes.
The muslim brotherhood is on the rise.
Our liberty has been sacrificed to the cronies, healthcare costs went up, we couldn't keep our doctor and only 250,000 more people got insured (as opposed to joining medicare)
Our taxes went up.
Banks are bigger are more powerful than ever
Our deficit doubled.
More people are out of the workforce.
More jobs went overseas and companies inverted.
Random actors of terrorism have become more terrorising around the world.
and clarance clemmons is dead.

The Republicans are half happy with Hilary, and terrified of Bernie. However, they aren't sure they can beat Hilary, but they are certain they can beat Bernie. They are between a rock and a hard place.

I say, let Bernie be the Democratic nominee, then bring it at election time. If he is beaten by whomever of the republican clowns is the nominee, watch what happens in 2020. The Republican party will probably fracture at the seams after they elect one of these bozos to be president because the American people are already "up to here".

So, I am completely comfortable with either Bernie or a Republican, because either way, destiny will fulfil itself.

Hilary is too centrist and an establishment candidate to change anything, and is also a closet Republican (economically) that will obfuscate American economic and political destiny more than anything else.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Important details to understand. Well worth reading for the details of the tax plan.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/2...-on-financial-transactions.html?referer=&_r=1

So every time you traded one ES contract, that would be an extra $10. $20 per round turn. A relatively small trade doing 10 lots and doing 10 round turns a week would have to cough up an additional $1000 per year. All so we can piss the money away on illegals, welfare leeches and millenials who don't want to pay their student debt.

The fact is, the tax would generate far less than estimated, simply because people have choices. I'd probably switch to real estate investing or maybe just take it easy and live off the benevolent government.

 

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So every time you traded one ES contract, that would be an extra $10. $20 per round turn. A relatively small trade doing 10 lots and doing 10 round turns a week would have to cough up an additional $1000 per year. All so we can piss the money away on illegals, welfare leeches and millenials who don't want to pay their student debt.

The fact is, the tax would generate far less than estimated, simply because people have choices. I'd probably switch to real estate investing or maybe just take it easy and live off the benevolent government.

That is incorrect. See the link I gave earlier in the thread. It is hundredth's of a percent, not tens of a percent.

 

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Final two Dems go head-to-head

"Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders will go head-to-head as they make their final pitches to New Hampshire voters at Thursday night’s Democratic presidential debate on MSNBC, just five days ahead of the primary.

This will be the first time they are pitted against each other onstage without Martin O’Malley, who dropped out of the race after a poor performance in the Iowa caucuses Monday.

Here are the five things to watch:"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-to-head/ar-BBp7kA9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP15

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

That is incorrect. See the link I gave earlier in the thread. It is hundredth's of a percent, not tens of a percent.

The article said 1 bp. An ES contract is worth approximately $100k in notional value. 0.01% of that is $10. Possibly you are using Common Core math, which takes feelings and "fairness" into account.

Of course, voters were also promised that the income tax would never be more than 2 or 3 percent. We know how that worked out. The transactions tax would inevitably generate a small fraction of what was projected, simply because people still have options, as repugnant as that is to progressives.

The other likely outcome would be that the tax would be broadened to include more than just evil financial transactions. Real estate speculation is also evil in liberals' eyes, unless they are selling their house in Silicon Valley. So the next time you sell your house, get ready to cough up a few hundred bucks in Bernie tax. Cars and SUVs? Yep, they kill the planet after all. Gas? of course. Medicine? Make the evil drug companies pay.

 

[Max E.]

 

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Hilary decided and straight up told Bernie re: wall street and corporate money SuperPAC, either come out and accuse her of something, or STFU. Sanders simply said, I am not bought because I only take money from the people I am supposed to be representing.