The Bern Identity
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ok, i looked at your source, snopes and others regarding this issue and what i found doesn't really convince me.
You use a quote saying the sec of state's office will verify citizenship and names will be added to voter rolls.
So what is that supposed to mean? Some kind of independent verification? Not that i can tell. I found no evidence on your link or any other that there is any independent verification. It appears to me that the 'verification' process used by the sec of state is that they check the documents sent in from the dmv and that is the entirety of the verification process.
And snopes tries to assure us that this is perfectly legit by quoting the sec of state that 'the vast majority of the time they use passport of birth cert to verify when registering to vote.
http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/
A. vast majority of the time? Uh, what about the rest of the time?
B. this snopes article also seems to verify my contention that your "secretary of state will verify citizenship' is nothing more than they look at the info the dmv sent in and that is the totality of their 'verification' process. Nothing whatsoever of an independent nature to 'verify' citizenship.
Are you embarrassed yet? You should be.
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The army, navy, airforce, coast guard and VA are socialist as well, or are they? What has always puzzled me is that not a few consider these military outfits to be the least efficient parts of government; yet those who say they want to shrink the government , because they say the government can't do anything as efficiently as the private sector, actually want to spend more, not less, on the military???
Most documents, or secure electronic records, that trace to citizenship may be used. These would be records ultimately traceable to birth records or naturalization.
Ultimately you place yourself in one camp that trusts public employees to do their job correctly òr the camp that assumes most of them are incompetent jackasses. It's similar to placing youself in either the "Barrack Hussein Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya" or the "Obama is a non-muslim born in Hawaii camp" . You get to decide this for yourself and will be judged by sane people accordingly.
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Well, that was exactly my point. Every civilization going back since the dawn of recorded history, had an element of 'socialism' in their society. Taxation for military, Government functions, infrastructure etc...
Ya, the military is a necessary evil and America is the undisputed world leader. Liberals, especially those outside the United States, desperately want to see America knocked down a few pegs. So a weak America fits that mantra perfectly. Thing is, America really does keep the world safe. When shit blows up, everyone looks to America to step in. It's the big brother in the room that is ready to step up and keep things in check. While this may be hated or seen as white privilege or whatever bullshit, its necessary. Think about man. Communist Chinese killed over 100 milllion of their own during Mao's cultural revolution. Stalin 80 million. This is no joke. THere has to be a counter-weight in the world. For all it's faults and evils, America is the cleanest dirty shirt in the global closet. We gotta recognize that and embrace it.
I might have known that you'd be one of those people who actually think the ssn that was issued to someone in conn and that obama uses was actually issued to him. Not only that, it seems to make sense to you.
But there's more! You liberals think the entire federal gov't was lying about wmd in iraq. How sane of you. And you even continue to perpetuate that myth after the NYTimes admits that they were found by our military! It don't matter! They lied!
Your side also seems to be of the opinion that the federal gov't must have supremecy over the states because states can't even be trusted to not bring back segregation.
But we conservatives are supposed to believe that those same states wouldn't dare lie about obama's birth certificate.
And since you're also thoroughly confused about libertarianism, let me post a definition for you to try and let sink in. Straight off google. First thing up. Iow, you couldn't miss it unless you try real, real hard. Is that what you do? Try real, real hard to miss things?
"Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment."
See? Pretty much the exact opposite of the things you espouse on here every day. All while you hold yourself out as a member of the group.
Maybe you could just change the spelling a bit to more accurately reflect your view.
Liebertarian
You may want to check into this if it is of interest to you, but I think the Fed has not been audited by the GAO on an annual basis, but rather on a periodic basis. The Fed does have two regular annual audits in addition to periodic GAO audits: their own internal audit of course, and the Inspector General's audit. The Fed has its own inspector General. But As I pointed out some time back, the Modern Fed, since Bernanke, has responded to criticism of not being transparent enough in its transactions by posting all its transactions, however a few such postings are intentionally delayed. It was some of these delayed transaction posting that Bloomberg launched a FOIA action over.
The Fed is a Creature of Congress, not of Jekyll Island. The Fed has to follow the law in all their dealings. If Congress does not want the Fed to do something, they have the option of making it illegal. Since very few among the general population, among Congress, and among ET members too, have any clue how the Central bank works to regulate banking and interest rates, and to expand and contract the money supply by buying and selling Treasury bonds on the secondary market, the Fed is the perfect fall guy for Congress. What makes it even more convenient as a political target is that the Fed avoids like the plague getting embroiled in political matters unless they absolutely have to respond. So they usually keep quiet no matter how ridiculous the conjectures and innuendo emanating from our house of representatives. House members can, for political purposes, say almost anything about the Fed, no matter how absurd, and get away with it, since so few understand Central Banking.
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I liked your use of this expression, and I may want to borrow it on occasion, if you don't mind. I'm not sure it is strictly correct, but it has the virtue of succinctly making us aware that there are degrees of filth in world politics, and helping us remember that we are not dealing with absolutes.
