The APPLE Crash

atticus · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from Xena:

You are correct, do not try to catch a falling knife.

Actually this thread shows up who the real amateurs are.

It are only newbies that carry on how well they do in something like AAPL and they justify their trading decision in hindsight. They cannot make a living out of a choppy market which is where the most money is to be made. Been there, done that. Trading parabolic moves, that is. Not to mention that most of the parabolic moves are actually short squeezes.

Remember the dot Com crash? When every Tom, Dick and Harry starts to mention how well they are doing and that they cannot loose then it gets time to take the contrarian position. Same with the housing boom. However how many of the sheeple have the guts?

At the end of the day all you need to know is the price / volume movement since working by funny mentals (fundamentals) is a cr@psho0t.

For all we know some firm may already be working on an affordable game changer; a possible one is voice operated glasses with bluetooth connection to the more complicated / bulkier control box that will change the glasses into a monitor, phone, camera, binnocular, nightvision, infrared vision, etc etc.

Hmmmm.... I already think that part of that is already existing for the military? Game over for Apple, how sad.

Let us know when you have something to say.

AAPL is a short at the open on the day before the iPad3 announcement.

SimpleTrades · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from bhardy307:

Not really. Its more of a cost benefit issue for my own needs. The Wifi hotspot capability of HTC saves me a bundle. I can have a single data plan for my htc phone and ipad. I was therefore able to buy the less expensive wifi capable only ipad. So, I am saving on both the data plan and the device plan, and the htc phone required a 0$ deposit for the three year plan, VS $250 for the iphone. For what you actually get, the iphone seems quite expensive.

Actually, I see now that the newest iphone has the wifi hotspot capability. Hmm, $250 for an upgrade. Maybe, I'll pass the HTC over to my wife, rather than buying her a new phone.

Edit: Only the 4s has the hotspot, and it costs an extra $400.

See that's the trouble with Apple; its really expensive for what you're actually getting.

babutime · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from atticus:

Let us know when you have something to say.

AAPL is a short at the open on the day before the iPad3 announcement.

I'll definitely look to see if that happens. Hopefully I'll have sold my calls by then. Any particular reason why?

bwolinsky · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from bhardy307:

Actually, I see now that the newest iphone has the wifi hotspot capability. Hmm, $250 for an upgrade. Maybe, I'll pass the HTC over to my wife, rather than buying her a new phone.

Edit: Only the 4s has the hotspot, and it costs an extra $400.

See that's the trouble with Apple; its really expensive for what you're actually getting.

My iPhone4, not the 4s, has an incredible camera on it, and I use it for videos sometimes on my youtube. If you're not into the 4s, the 4 is a really good model, too. It's invaluable from my standpoint because it uses the logmein app to access my pc from my iPhone. I find that ingenious because I have remotely traded before and unless the pc goes berserk it's very reliable.

The iPhone3 and virtually every other model I know have has wifi capability but you really don't need that since you're required to have a dataplan for your phone anyway.

atticus · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from bhardy307:

Actually, I see now that the newest iphone has the wifi hotspot capability. Hmm, $250 for an upgrade. Maybe, I'll pass the HTC over to my wife, rather than buying her a new phone.

Edit: Only the 4s has the hotspot, and it costs an extra $400.

See that's the trouble with Apple; its really expensive for what you're actually getting.

Yeah, there is a premium assigned on services. Comes with the territory when being the market-leader. The carriers don't have to sell the phone as an access point, so they don't.

If you want 100k apps then buy the iPhone and get an LTE hotspot. If you can live with Android Market then keep the Android. I bought the 4G hotspot to use with the MBP, iPhone and iPad. An extra $60 but worth the premium for me.

SimpleTrades · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from bwolinsky:

The iPhone3 and virtually every other model I know have has wifi capability but you really don't need that since you're required to have a dataplan for your phone anyway.

No, you don't understand. Wifi "hotspot". In other words the iphone becomes a hotspot like you can get in a coffee shop. This allows a wifi capable device like your laptop to use your phone's internet and data plan.

You need to learn about these things, Beau, so you can do your trading while sitting in your boat out in the middle of the lake/river/ocean!

SimpleTrades · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from atticus:

Yeah, there is a premium assigned on services. Comes with the territory when being the market-leader. The carriers don't have to sell the phone as an access point, so they don't.

If you want 100k apps then buy the iPhone and get an LTE hotspot. If you can live with Android Market then keep the Android. I bought the 4G hotspot to use with the MBP, iPhone and iPad. An extra $60 but worth the premium for me.

I can live without the apps. For my needs, the android apps available are more than enough, and for the price the HTC desire HD is superior to the iphones. Last I looked it was actually rated better. That's one of the reasons why I bought it. The hotspot capability is a must for me. It has saved me many times since I got this phone.

newwurldmn · Feb 25, 2012

Quote from bhardy307:

No, you don't understand. Wifi "hotspot". In other words the iphone becomes a hotspot like you can get in a coffee shop. This allows a wifi capable device like your laptop to use your phone's internet and data plan.

You need to learn about these things, Beau, so you can do your trading while sitting in your boat out in the middle of the lake/river/ocean!

I use that as I am rarely not at my home or office. But at least on Verizon it's not 4G LTE. It's 3G. It's $20/month and no extra devices. So it works for me. If I travelled more, I would spring for the 4G hotspot.

GrandSupercycle · Feb 26, 2012

Topic dilution trollery by the stalkers...
Nice try.

Like Nine_Ender and his sockpuppet multi nicks, bwolinsky repeatedly conflates TA analysis/commentary with actual trades.
This demonstrates intentional malicious conduct and/or appalling ignorance by bwolinsky who has no TA knowledge.
I never made any AAPL trade recommendation - short or long.
Are his broker clients or the SEC aware of this appalling conduct on public forums ?
Disclosure: no AAPL position held.
http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/sat-feb-18

Brokerage / management fees / commissions...
Stockbrokers / investment advisors...
I'm not interested in semantics.
We all know how brokers / investment advisors obtain income and it's not from trading their own account.

Please note I did not initiate conflict with bwolinsky.
bwolinsky is solely responsible as he/she chose to troll my threads and stalk me.
This fact can not be disputed.

bwolinsky · Feb 26, 2012

Quote from bhardy307:

No, you don't understand. Wifi "hotspot". In other words the iphone becomes a hotspot like you can get in a coffee shop. This allows a wifi capable device like your laptop to use your phone's internet and data plan.

You need to learn about these things, Beau, so you can do your trading while sitting in your boat out in the middle of the lake/river/ocean!

Bhardy, it does that. I know what a wifi hotspot is, and I use it at home. Bear in mind, if you ever want to use FaceTime, then you only do that through Wi-Fi. I guarantee this is the reason why all iPhone 4's on have them, because they have to in order to do facetime.