The American Dream Is Dead

[Lucrum]

 

[Scataphagos]

That's Odumbo and the Dems, all right!

 

[Ricter]

There are no poor people who live in the US. Do a little research into what being poor is all about. The American version of being poor means having 2 cars, a couple 50+ inch HDTVs, and weighting 250lbs or more. America has invented the obese poor person.

Of course one of the benefits of being 'poor' in the US is every year or two the media will overblow a news story about a white person doing something stupid, then in the midst of the riot you get to go on a shopping spree.

"America has invented the obese poor person."

Is this because food is so cheap in America the poor can afford to overeat?

 

[Scataphagos]

The dream isn't dead. It's just unattainable..."

I believe it's less attainable than in prior generations.

Why? Because the Leftists want to tax the successful more-and-more. That is, even if you make upper middle-class wages.. your after-tax will be reduced so much that you'll have a difficult time to accumulate enough to feel successful.

The Leftist government wants everybody to be equal so that nobody seemingly has grounds to bitch... but still only "one notch above destitute" while the government elites remain the overlords and live high-on-the-hog of the work/efforts of the hoi polloi.

 

[Ricter]

I believe it's less attainable than in prior generations.

Why? Because the Leftists want to tax the successful more-and-more. That is, even if you make upper middle-class wages.. your after-tax will be reduced so much that you'll have a difficult time to accumulate enough to feel successful.

The Leftist government wants everybody to be equal so that nobody seemingly has grounds to bitch... but still only "one notch above destitute" while the government elites remain the overlords and live high-on-the-hog of the work/efforts of the hoi polloi.

We're apparently about to have a "rightest government". Do you think it will be any different, in terms of elites, overlords, high on the hog living, etc.?

 

[DHOHHI]

And since the poor really want to be poor, and the struggling really want to be struggling, there's no need to lend them a helping hand (according to conservatives), much less consider any means of ameliorating the problem.

Your IQ is what? 80?

Actually many of those who are poor are choosing to be poor. Many drop out of school .. and that is a CHOICE. Those who finish high school have mediocre grades mostly. Thus they get crappy jobs. Then they CHOOSE to have kids they rarely can support.

As far as lending them a helping hand .. hello! Having helped a poor kid get into a charter school (because her Mom was too lazy) that required me to hand carry documents to the school on the kids behalf I know many get (1) Section 8 housing (2) utility subsidies or credits (3) Food stamps (4) Medicaid (5) free cell phones (6) free tutoring for kids. You have any idea what that can add up to per month .. and it's free to them.

 

[DHOHHI]

Are you stating that the lack of education, hard work, and responsible adult decision has no correlation to the condition that many poor households find themselves in?

He's stating yet again he has no intelligent reply ... he just likes to argue.

For every Herman Cain or Ben Carson, both who grew up poor, and succeeded in life through CHOOSING to get an education and then working hard in their respective professions ... we probably have 10 or 30 or 50 poor people who choose to drop out of school, or just do enough to get a high school degree and then crank out 5 or 6 kids.

 

[Scataphagos]

Your IQ is what? 80?

Actually many of those who are poor are choosing to be poor. Many drop out of school .. and that is a CHOICE. Those who finish high school have mediocre grades mostly. Thus they get crappy jobs. Then they CHOOSE to have kids they rarely can support.

As far as lending them a helping hand .. hello! Having helped a poor kid get into a charter school (because her Mom was too lazy) that required me to hand carry documents to the school on the kids behalf I know many get (1) Section 8 housing (2) utility subsidies or credits (3) Food stamps (4) Medicaid (5) free cell phones (6) free tutoring for kids. You have any idea what that can add up to per month .. and it's free to them.

"Social support".. should be 3-SQUARES AND A COT... we're not going to let anyone starve or freeze to death in America... but we OWE the lazy and ne'er-do-wells.. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. If they want better in their life than that, they should GET A FARKIN' JOB AND PAY FOR IT... JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!

 

[dbphoenix]

Your IQ is what? 80?

Actually many of those who are poor are choosing to be poor. Many drop out of school .. and that is a CHOICE. Those who finish high school have mediocre grades mostly. Thus they get crappy jobs. Then they CHOOSE to have kids they rarely can support.

As far as lending them a helping hand .. hello! Having helped a poor kid get into a charter school (because her Mom was too lazy) that required me to hand carry documents to the school on the kids behalf I know many get (1) Section 8 housing (2) utility subsidies or credits (3) Food stamps (4) Medicaid (5) free cell phones (6) free tutoring for kids. You have any idea what that can add up to per month .. and it's free to them.

More FoxNews talking points.

I'll say this: you have the dogma down pat.

 

[dbphoenix]

We're apparently about to have a "rightest government". Do you think it will be any different, in terms of elites, overlords, high on the hog living, etc.?

The Republican rank-and-file have remarkably short memories . . .