The American Dream Built on Debt, Living in Beverly Hills

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from vhehn:

"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you."

written by George Carlin

"evolution has actually convinced people that they are nothing more than highly intelligent monkeys that have no purpose in the world and no reason for being here and that they got here because a handful of nothing exploded 13 billion years ago and created all life from a pile of snot"

Written by Peilthetraveler

 

[Optionpro007]

Quote from aegis:

Yes, it HAS to be this way. Reversion to the mean.

An upper class has always existed, and will always exist. An upper class requires a lower class to exist, but not necessarily a middle class. When the upper class essentially "owns you", you tend to care less about your financial situation and piss your money away.

What we've seen in the last two centuries is a rarity. The industrial revolution created a demand for labor that established a middle class. Since the dawn of human civilization, this has only previously occurred twice for a limited number of years in ancient Greek and Roman societies. It obviously was not sustainable. And as we've been witnessing, the middle class is disappearing yet again.

You are forgetting that it is human's wallets that are broke, not human intellect.

So given our present scenario, we could and most probably have to see chaos before everything reorganizes itself at a higher level. Very long term I think we will ultimately evolve into a world were poor people will be the minority. I actually phantom a time when rich and poor will not be differentiated by physical means alone.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

"evolution has actually convinced people that they are nothing more than highly intelligent monkeys that have no purpose in the world and no reason for being here and that they got here because a handful of nothing exploded 13 billion years ago and created all life from a pile of snot"

Written by Peilthetraveler

Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, which people see as ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn."
[St. Augustine],

 

[jem]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

"evolution has actually convinced people that they are nothing more than highly intelligent monkeys that have no purpose in the world and no reason for being here and that they got here because a handful of nothing exploded 13 billion years ago and created all life from a pile of snot"

Written by Peilthetraveler

this is quite a nice reply.

You should even augment it with the fact that they are also now asking you to believe there are now almost infinite universes out there - just so they can combat the design inference created by AP.

Serious men of science now admit there is no fricken way - this universe formed just right to allow life to exist. Its just a joke to think it came about randomly.

So they now admit they have to speculate about trillions of universes.

There was special on PBS on this just last week.

It was on PBS and it was recorded at Univ CA San Diego.

The guy was ripping design for 55 minutes then in the last 5 minutes he covered the best argument. Stated he spoke with Stephen Weinberg the nobel prize physicist about it. It had to be the silliest lecture buy a truthful and smart man I ever witnessed.


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But now a question for you. Could you please point out the places in the bible where Jesus speaks about when a person is saved. Then please tell me how we now someone can not accept Jesus after death.

When I read about the different judgments I just do not draw the same conclusions on this subject.

 

[fkbsuhites]

Religious nutters confuse the concept of intelligent design with the nonsense they've been brain washed with.

God did not create man in His image.

It's Man who created God in his image.

Pick a religion and every dumb nutter thinks his version of nonsense is the only way and every one else is doomed.


Here's the truth. There is intelligence behind life ( to assert otherwise is irrational). But He don't give two shits about any of you. Otherwise kids would not die of hunger and entire villages would not get wiped off in Tsunamis.

Religion is the worlds oldest business. Right along with prostitution.

Quote from jem:

this is quite a nice reply.

You should even augment it with the fact that they are also now asking you to believe there are now almost infinite universes out there - just so they can combat the design inference created by AP.

Serious men of science now admit there is no fricken way - this universe formed just right to allow life to exist. Its just a joke to think it came about randomly.

So they now admit they have to speculate about trillions of universes.

There was special on PBS on this just last week.

It was on PBS and it was recorded at Univ CA San Diego.

The guy was ripping design for 55 minutes then in the last 5 minutes he covered the best argument. Stated he spoke with Stephen Weinberg the nobel prize physicist about it. It had to be the silliest lecture buy a truthful and smart man I ever witnessed.


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But now a question for you. Could you please point out the places in the bible where Jesus speaks about when a person is saved. Then please tell me how we now someone can not accept Jesus after death.

When I read about the different judgments I just do not draw the same conclusions on this subject.

 

[logikos]

Quote from vhehn:

"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you."

written by George Carlin

Well. Carlin knows the truth now, doesn't he?

 

[logikos]

Quote from fkbsuhites:

Here's the truth. There is intelligence behind life ( to assert otherwise is irrational). But He don't give two shits about any of you. Otherwise kids would not die of hunger and entire villages would not get wiped off in Tsunamis.

Religion is the worlds oldest business. Right along with prostitution.

Some contradictions there. How do you know your knowledge is the truth, as you state? How do you know that the truth has been revealed to us, but has been altered so that it no longer is truth at all?

 

[jprad]

Quote from jem:

Could you please point out the places in the bible where Jesus speaks about when a person is saved. Then please tell me how we now someone can not accept Jesus after death.

If the only way to get into heaven is to accept Jesus while you're still able to fog a mirror then what does St. Pete do when a Jew, Hindu, Muslim or other non-Christian shows up at the pearly gates?

Does he flip them the bird and tell them to step off?

 

[jprad]

Quote from fkbsuhites:

Here's the truth. There is intelligence behind life ( to assert otherwise is irrational). But He don't give two shits about any of you.

If He doesn't give two shits then why did He even bother in the first place?

If anything, the fact that we even have congenital birth defects, cancer and a host of other life-shortening maladies, much less asocial emotions like envy and greed, smacks of incompetence, not intelligence.

 

[austrijec]

you lucky today because i am in a good mood, real truth :
all religions, etc are valid. you choose the life and afterlife etc. Real for you is one you believe in. so make sure you choose wisely !

if your brain can handle, can create your own beliefs, which is the best as it is perfect fit. thats the real benefit of intelligence.