Wow. I was aware of the stuff Mav was just talking about, but I definitely feel like I've been schooled. Strong words.In a good way. I can attest to the noise in TBT, having been in it awhile back when a well known bond guru was pounding the table saying interest rates were going to rise soon, and that we should all head for the hills. Then they went from three to one and a half. And I agree that yields are having a stealth move. It's just that pundits have been saying yields are going up since like 1985. So no one believes it anymore. All the more reason to like the trade. Also, look at the recent action. Stocks went down, Bonds held down. Very unusual. It may also explain the quizzical weakness in the dollar, despite the election. We'll see.