The ACD Method

Quote from justrading:

In essence, Hang Seng and Nikkei aside, you are dealing with small markets.


I would not call hang seng major market and would not touch it. they are outpriced by chinese and property speculation & finance the only economies left. So you risking 'country = hedge fund' effect, (like uk etc) ensuring you will lose long term.

China index is real stuff.
 
Quote from toolazy:

I would not call hang seng major market and would not touch it. they are outpriced by chinese and property speculation & finance the only economies left. So you risking 'country = hedge fund' effect, (like uk etc) ensuring you will lose long term.

China index is real stuff.

Not small does not equate with major. Let's keep things in perspective. A lot of the big players in South East Asian markets punt the HS as well, and it is often a leading indicator for the daily performance of the smaller regional markets, in the same way the States leads global markets.

The S&P 500 is as it states, an index of 500 stocks.

My very first study of the Thai market revealed 495 actively traded stocks in total. Post Lehman, a blue chip SET50 stock would set you back all of $1 a share. You could buy DELTA for about 9 baht, then less than 30 cents, below book value, and they never paid less than 5% dividend a year. I laugh when I see a good dividend stock paying 3%, hell I get close to that on a fixed deposit with a government guarantee.

So, in comparison to this, Hang Seng and Nikkei are not small.

Perhaps you would prefer tiny and small as appropriate expressions, but then I struggle with why funds have been investing cheap QE dollars meant to stimulate the American economy in a tiny market like Thailand. Or Indonesia, or the Philippines.
 
Quote from partha:

Mav,

In all the time you have been following ACD, Has a market correction (I am using a drop of over 5%) occurred with a positive 30day NL ?

Currently the 30day on the SPX etc are positive (methodology could be wrong ... but still) over a threshold of 9. I am beginning to wonder from a NL perspective what you look for (ISEE is one marker you mentioned).

In my short experience using it with stocks, the NL always telegraphs a change in sentiment with stocks in both directions.

Thanks,
Partha

That's a very good question. I actually pulled up my data from 2011 to take a look. That was the last year we really had any kind of meaningful downside volatility. The answer is, we got number line confirmations to the UPSIDE right before major corrections.

Now why and how this happen? Well, the corrections we got in April and July of that year both came right off swing highs. So the market was acting well going into the highs. My theory to this is that sharp corrections are outliers. ACD is not effective in predicting outliers because by definition, outliers fall outside your data set. ACD does a good job modeling "normal" markets. It takes the patterns in volatility, the centering of important time zones and together with observed price action behavior, spits out very predictable results.

Market crashes or corrections happen when something breaks or snaps. It's very hard to time those events. The goal is simply to have a risk management protocol in place in order to deal with them rather then try to predict them. Now, if you looked under the hood at other things going on in the market, perhaps there would have been some clues. I've said before many times that often the best tells are in the currencies. When you see money sharply moving out of risk countries and into safe havens, something is up. If there is a tell out there when a crash or sharp correction is coming, you are much better off looking at the currency charts then the SP 500.

I've got a pretty good eye so I tend to notice very subtle things going on. I'm sure you will notice some action in a particular stock or sector that seems off or out of character that will clue you in to something happening. But it's highly unlikely that the number lines will be the tell.

For example in 2007, credit spreads were blowing out while the spoos were making new highs. And by credit spreads I mean things like the TED spread and the OIS. Watch these like a hawk. When they start to blow out, you'll be amazed how few people even notice. Both these spreads telegraphed the 2007 top and the sharp 2011 correction we had after the debt downgrade.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

That's a very good question. I actually pulled up my data from 2011 to take a look. That was the last year we really had any kind of meaningful downside volatility. The answer is, we got number line confirmations to the UPSIDE right before major corrections.

Now why and how this happen? Well, the corrections we got in April and July of that year both came right off swing highs. So the market was acting well going into the highs. My theory to this is that sharp corrections are outliers. ACD is not effective in predicting outliers because by definition, outliers fall outside your data set. ACD does a good job modeling "normal" markets. It takes the patterns in volatility, the centering of important time zones and together with observed price action behavior, spits out very predictable results.

Market crashes or corrections happen when something breaks or snaps. It's very hard to time those events. The goal is simply to have a risk management protocol in place in order to deal with them rather then try to predict them. Now, if you looked under the hood at other things going on in the market, perhaps there would have been some clues. I've said before many times that often the best tells are in the currencies. When you see money sharply moving out of risk countries and into safe havens, something is up. If there is a tell out there when a crash or sharp correction is coming, you are much better off looking at the currency charts then the SP 500.

I've got a pretty good eye so I tend to notice very subtle things going on. I'm sure you will notice some action in a particular stock or sector that seems off or out of character that will clue you in to something happening. But it's highly unlikely that the number lines will be the tell.

For example in 2007, credit spreads were blowing out while the spoos were making new highs. And by credit spreads I mean things like the TED spread and the OIS. Watch these like a hawk. When they start to blow out, you'll be amazed how few people even notice. Both these spreads telegraphed the 2007 top and the sharp 2011 correction we had after the debt downgrade.

Ted spread... Fixed income! Something to know about..
 
Mav,

what are your thoughts on GBPUSD at these levels...I have a 30 NL that had confirmed down for a while. Although, I still remember your points from earlier in the thread.

1. It seems you don't like to enter new trades towards the end of the month?

I want to short here so bad but my reluctance is that GBP is seemly so resilient across all pairs even though the NL says otherwise
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Now the TED spread IS something you can trade!

I've only read about the TED spread briefly.. I only know its the spread between Eurodollars and treasuries. How is it something you can trade here specifically
 
Quote from koolaid:

Mav,

what are your thoughts on GBPUSD at these levels...I have a 30 NL that had confirmed down for a while. Although, I still remember your points from earlier in the thread.

1. It seems you don't like to enter new trades towards the end of the month?

I want to short here so bad but my reluctance is that GBP is seemly so resilient across all pairs even though the NL says otherwise

Still in a confirmed neg number line. There are MUCH easier pairs to be in right now rather then trading the chop of cable. Remember, trading is hard enough as it is, don't challenge yourself! LOL. Even the easy trades will be hard so give yourself a break. :)
 
Quote from cdcaveman:

I've only read about the TED spread briefly.. I only know its the spread between Eurodollars and treasuries. How is it something you can trade here specifically

The TED is very actively traded. It's treasuries over eurodollars. It's the spread between the less risky treasury rate with the riskier libor rate. The spread will widen when credit tightens, that's when you want to be careful. There are many variations of the spread. In other words it does not have to be US 10 year notes over 10 year Euro Dollars. Could be 5 year notes over 5 year EuroDollars or 2 year Notes over 2 year Euro Dollars, etc. It's very heavily traded in all durations.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

The TED is very actively traded. It's treasuries over eurodollars. It's the spread between the less risky treasury rate with the riskier libor rate. The spread will widen when credit tightens, that's when you want to be careful. There are many variations of the spread. In other words it does not have to be US 10 year notes over 10 year Euro Dollars. Could be 5 year notes over 5 year EuroDollars or 2 year Notes over 2 year Euro Dollars, etc. It's very heavily traded in all durations.

your short one outright, and long the other outright.. with no margin relief..
 
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