Quote from kinggyppo:
this came out wednesday, call it what you want. To be honest I have no idea why they crushed oil, this is my educated guess.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/05/02/adp-jobs-report-disappoints
Quote from Shanb:
LOL..c'mon king. I trade everyday! I know we had the a couple jobs numbers come out this week!
My point was...that the weakness in crude was very pronounced. Hell Crude actually led us on the way down on Thursday.

Quote from kinggyppo:
this is what I have taken out the acd thread so far mostly due to Mav:
breakout vs reversion to the mean
price action
acd levels
long vol = long bonds
spreading
Shan I was very struck personally that bonds got bid huge before adp on wednesday, but seriously take what I say with a grain of salt, listen to Mav he is very wise.[/QUOTE
King, good observation on bonds. There has been a consistent bid there for a while
BTW...I do listen to Mav, in fact I sit next to him everyday. He is a good friend and a good teacher. Both me and him were in fact surprised by the extent of the drop on friday. Through some careful maneuvering he was able to hedge himself against the drop. I guess we will see what happens on monday!
Quote from Maverick74:
Nat Gas looks very strong. The only headwind it has now is CNBC is talking about it nonstop and everyone appears to be bullish. That is going to make this trade very choppy. But the nat gas curve is getting very steep which usually is very bullish.
The ACD levels look great. That 2.38 level in my opinion is going to get blown out. There is no such thing as a triple top. Markets test levels they are about to break. Having said that, nat gas is not AAPL and it does not trade like a stock. This product will be choppy. Much better and safer to buy the dips then the breakouts. Look for failed weekly A downs and intra-day A downs to get long.
Quote from Shanb:
Quote from kinggyppo:
this is what I have taken out the acd thread so far mostly due to Mav:
breakout vs reversion to the mean
price action
acd levels
long vol = long bonds
spreading
Shan I was very struck personally that bonds got bid huge before adp on wednesday, but seriously take what I say with a grain of salt, listen to Mav he is very wise.[/QUOTE
King, good observation on bonds. There has been a consistent bid there for a while
BTW...I do listen to Mav, in fact I sit next to him everyday. He is a good friend and a good teacher. Both me and him were in fact surprised by the extent of the drop on friday. Through some careful maneuvering he was able to hedge himself against the drop. I guess we will see what happens on monday!
Yes, being a skilled options artist comes in handy sometimes. It's precisely why I like to trade these macro positions with options vs straight futures.
I came in Friday morning and sprung into action. The price action in crude was horrible. Those weekly levels in crude next week will be huge.