Quote from mfbreakout:
I have not traded GC, TF etc. But to some trading CL may look like crowded trade but the simple fact is CL offers more opportunities to trade intra day VS ES etc.. that's all that chart is showing. I would like to hear whats missing from that chart. It's not saying it's easier to trade. I do not know what easier trading is. It's just showing statistical facts. Lot of new traders want to trade /ES without knowing the risk vs other futures instrument.
So, if one wants to trade futures, at least trade instrument which has more opportunities. Mark fisher daily sheet gives $ risk amount for all the other instruments and CL always has lower risk compared to lot of other futures. He talked about in his book quite a bit.
Now, if one can not trade his/her way out of a paper bag, nothing will help, stocks, etf's , futures etc..
Again my comments are only regarding day trading.
By the way newbie trader, anyone less than 2 years experience is not supposed to make money. Linda Rashcke has seen only 1 in her career and Mark Fisher has very few per his NYMEX presentation. So lets give newbie traders a break. They get too hard on themselves (lol).
Quote from mfbreakout:
www.tradeflight.com. One can go to this site and look at which products gives a trader biggest BANG for his buck. I switched to CL a year ago after looking at the numbers.
Gold, Cl and Russell are the top three.
Disclaimer: Author of the study is a friend of mine and a MASTER trader.
Quote from Shazbatz30:
Hey Mav. Got some questions for you if you don't mind.
Has the ACD method been your primary methodology? How does it differ from the techniques you used before you adopted the method? I assume you used price action before, even though you're trading spreads.
My library put a hold on the Fisher book for me. I'm looking forward to analyzing the methods, and purchase it if necessary.
I go out to Bucktown to visit my brother often. PM me if you're ever wandering around. Maybe we can grab some coffee and bullshit for a few. Take care.
Quote from mdl060374:
Is the link broken? Seems to be on my end.
Quote from Maverick74:
CL is very crowded. The smart money does not trade crude outright, they trade the strips, or calendar spreads. Those markets are huge and very liquid. Very few people are punting on direction. Even Fisher himself doesn't trade Crude anymore because of the noise. They only trade the spreads.
Opportunity is a very subjective word. The only reason you say that is because of the leverage, not because of the product. I can prove this through correlation. Crude is as correlated to risk assets as anything else. It's just more levered. If I asked you to day trade the USO etf, you wouldn't do it. Not because you think it's a bad trading product (it's the same as crude oil), but because there is no leverage. It's the same reason why people like trading the 3x ETF's.
If I had to choose between CL or TF, I would choose TF. But if you put a gun to my head and made me trade CL everyday, I would trade the calendars over the outrights. Much better trade in my opinion. And probably why most prop firms, including MBF, trade them.