That is the sticky wicket though. You do not know if the day is going to trend or range on any given day at the open. You can see it only after the close. Especially in this calendar year's market where the trend has been general bear with 10% bounces between troughs. Until the FeD goes back to QE, I thing trending days will be the rarity, and we gotta' go for capturing chunks of the ranges.
That was a perfect inverse h&s today good for 30 ES points easy
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That is the sticky wicket though. You do not know if the day is going to trend or range on any given day at the open. You can see it only after the close. Especially in this calendar year's market where the trend has been general bear with 10% bounces between troughs. Until the FeD goes back to QE, I thing trending days will be the rarity, and we gotta' go for capturing chunks of the ranges.
Man, o man. I can make you a rich man. I do this every day before the market open....I establish a loose, general, framework image in my mind of how the day's movement expectations will look like -- and when to specifically buy and sell.
and I'm not bragging or being a troll or fake.
This is the key with successful trading. Knowing...what to generally...expect. waiting for it, and then buying and selling at or around the ideal moments. So many people are completely just gambling, and hoping to ride a slight, random, movement wave....before getting wiped out.
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I usually confine trading to RTH.
You should consider looking at it during the 2AM ET hour. Fun stuff can happen there when ye be sleeping.
I do not trade RTH equities, I trade futures, which you have admitted you have no clue about. I'll pass on your offer to make me a rich man.
I don't think anyone answered this question yet.
30 points on the ES x $50/point. -> $1500/contract.
With Interactive Brokers, I get an intraday initial margin requirement of $15,580/contract.
-> So, he made ~9.6% on the margin he put up to be able to make the trade.
Some people prefer to think in terms of notional value. 1 contract represents about $4150 (approx close price) x 50 = $207,500.
-> So, he made ~0.72% against the full notional value.
Most people would put on some leverage, but not necessarily max leverage, so the real percent return is likely somewhere between 0.7% and 9.6%.
I have no clue what his risk management or account size are and so obviously I have no clue how many contracts he had on.
I need a better hobby.
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The same movement gives you 100-150% return in SPX options 1 day expiry. By the way the move was 50 points if Jack meant the right shoulder at 4110. We closed at 4160.
Current ask at 4190 is $6.5, sell at 4160 is $15.9, expiring tomorrow. The 50 pts away 4210 ask is $2.8.
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I don't.I usually confine trading to RTH.
As I said previously:-
"Practical and doable but not obviously every trading day of the year."
Yellow are openings on HOD/LOD. Black/red dots other trend days - many near the respective openings.
I don't think anyone answered this question yet.
30 points on the ES x $50/point. -> $1500/contract.
With Interactive Brokers, I get an intraday initial margin requirement of $15,580/contract.
-> So, he made ~9.6% on the margin he put up to be able to make the trade.
Some people prefer to think in terms of notional value. 1 contract represents about $4120.50 (close price) x 50 = $206,025.
-> So, he made ~0.73% against the full notional value.
Most people would put on some leverage, but not necessarily max leverage, so the real percent return is likely somewhere between 0.7% and 9.6%.
I have no clue what his risk management or account size are and so obviously I have no clue how many contracts he had on.
I need a better hobby.
He never said HE was trading through IB. His margin could have been a lot less with a different broker.
Besides, enough with the notional thing! That just something people like KC like to brag about. That would matter only if you are looking for financial settlement at expiry.