Thank you United States Of America

[TorontoTrader2]

Quote from ElCubano:

yeah really...isnt this the guy who bashes Americans on every other thread....

In your world right is wrong, wrong is right?

If a guy conceded that someone does something right, and prasies them, they are bad?

But if a rabid hater such as B Oreilly or Coulter doesn;t let up on their fanaticism, that is ok?

You should encourage moderates. It's NORMAL to point out evil behavior, and praise good behavior.

Speaking of that, as a "liberator" how come you can't come up with an iraq body count? Surely you care about the arabs that you are 'liberating'?

 

[dddooo]

What's truly pathetic is the fact the while you and other palestinian crybabies like you bitch about Israel day in and day out, it's the great and the little satan that take care of palestinian families and sudanese refugees.

Quote from WAEL012000:

We talk about your illegal settlement in the West bank, you avoid the subject and talk about some isolated posts in Sinai desert.
As I said settlements are easily dismantled when the time is right and Israelis demonstrated repeatedly that they are willing to do that. Settlements don't violate resolution 242 either as it does not talk about settlements.


President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, stated its platform must conform with "international resolutions" and "respect" previous agreements signed with Israel.
They don't need to respect previous agreements, they could disrespect them all they want but they must recognize them and abide by them and that's what they refuse to do. The entire world knows that, the Hamas government is boycotted by the EU because they refuse to recognize (not respect) previous agreements, your little pathetic spin does not fool anyone.

“By signing up to the agreement Hamas, for the first time, expressed its readiness to accept all previous agreements signed by Israel
They are ready to "accept all previous agreements"? Great news, wake me up when they actually do accept them. It only confirms my point that they have not done it yet.

If the Arab leaders dropped their pants, bent over and gave the choice to your leaders to chose the type of lubricant to use...You will not be satisfied.
Blah blah blah, no one asked you to post your sexual fantasies. Anyway, the arab leaders are not bending over backward. They want Israel to bend over backward, they are "willing" to negotiate only after all their conditions are already unilaterally met by Israel.

Thanks for bringing up all these points Wael. The palestinians refuse to recognize previous agreements, the arab world is only willing to negotiate after they get everything they want, after Israel accepts all their conditions and they accept none. It's quite clear how serious the arab world and palestinians are about peace.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

the CofE’s recent decision to disinvest from Caterpillar, who make construction machinery.

FWIW Cat's stock has more than tripled since 2003. On the other side Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Not surprisingly you avoid the gist of the article and focus on how much money CAT has made...

Gee, some anti-Semites might point respond by saying Jews are nothing but materialistic money grubbing people who think only of themselves...

Since I am not anti-Semitic...I won't go there.

Also, you show real class by categorizing the murder of Corrie as "Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted."

<img src=http://www.rachelcorrie.org/racheladpic_files/image002.jpg>

If that is humorous to you, would it be equally humorous to you for a joke that the Jews were "delisted" by the Nazis?

Quote from dddooo:

FWIW Cat's stock has more than tripled since 2003. On the other side Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Also, you show real class by categorizing the murder of Corrie as "Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted."

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from dddooo:

FWIW Cat's stock has more than tripled since 2003. On the other side Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted.

you think this is funny?

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from dddooo:

As I said settlements are easily dismantled when the time is right and Israelis demonstrated repeatedly that they are willing to do that. Settlements don't violate resolution 242 either as it does not talk about settlements.

And that is why you expand existing settlement and vigorously build new ones in violation of UN resolutions.
It only make sense you see!


They don't need to respect previous agreements, they could disrespect them all they want but they must recognize them and abide by them and that's what they refuse to do. The entire world knows that, the Hamas government is boycotted by the EU because they refuse to recognize (not respect) previous agreements, your little pathetic spin does not fool anyone.

How did I know that you will drop the previous articles and stick to this one due to the fact that it was not clear enough. Again, as you got us used to...A first class manipulator!!

They are ready to "accept all previous agreements"? Great news, wake me up when they actually do accept them. It only confirms my point that they have not done it yet.

No I wont...The whole world will when they find out that your fascist state is the biggest obstacles to world peace.

As I told you before, I really thought that I was a mistake for the Arab states, PA and Hamas to compromise for the only language you know is a different one...Totally different.

Blah blah blah, no one asked you to post your sexual fantasies. Anyway, the arab leaders are not bending over backward. They want Israel to bend over backward, they are "willing" to negotiate only after all their conditions are already unilaterally met by Israel.

couldn't be because Israel is in a constant state of aggression, committing land theft, destruction and death?

Thanks for bringing up all these points Wael. The palestinians refuse to recognize previous agreements, the arab world is only willing to negotiate after they get everything they want, after Israel accepts all their conditions and they accept none. It's quite clear how serious the arab world and palestinians are about peace.
You would out run a weasel dddooo! I showed you that the stupid PA and Hamas expressed willingness to accept previous agreement, you come back the above comment.
Any follower if the discussion both of us had in this thread will clearly see that you are a fraud.

I would leave it to everyone to judge who is the obstacle to peace buddy.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Not surprisingly you avoid the gist of the article and focus on how much money CAT has made...

Gee, some anti-Semites might point respond by saying Jews are nothing but materialistic money grubbing people who think only of themselves...

Since I am not anti-Semitic...I won't go there.

Also, you show real class by categorizing the murder of Corrie as "Rachel Corrie's stock was delisted."

<img src=http://www.rachelcorrie.org/racheladpic_files/image002.jpg>

If that is humorous to you, would it be equally humorous to you for a joke that the Jews were "delisted" by the Nazis?

Heck, the ethnic cleansing of a total population is a joke and humorous to this dddooo guy!

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ratboy88:

you think this is funny?

I think this is war porn. Rachel Corrie was with the ISM -she got exactly what you bargained for, or do you think what the ISM and Rachel Corrie were doing was funny?

Past ISM campaigns have used the following tactics:

- Acting as human shields to deter military operations. Some ISM volunteers object to the use of the term human shield to describe their work because, they argue, in a Palestinian context the expression more usually refers to forced use of captive Palestinians by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) when searching Palestinian neighbourhoods.

- Removing roadblocks. These are large unmanned mounds of earth and concrete on roads throughout the West Bank, and sometimes placed at the entrances of Palestinian villages by the IDF, thereby isolating those villages' inhabitants.

- Attempting to block military vehicles such as tanks and bulldozers.

- Violating Israeli curfew orders enforced on Palestinian areas in order to monitor Israeli military actions, deliver food and medicine to Palestinian homes, or escort medical personnel to help facilitate their work.

- Interfering with the construction of the West Bank barrier and damaging the barrier.

- Entering areas designated as "closed military zones" by the Israeli military. The latter is not really a 'strategy', but a prerequisite for ISM being able to conduct many of the above activities. Confronting Israeli soldiers is a constant activity of ISM volunteers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Solidarity_Movement

PS for the record, when I think Rachel Corrie, I think the Darwin Award.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ratboy88:

you think this is funny?

Or maybe you think this is funny:

- For example an article in the UK's Telegraph newspaper asserts that ISM is "the 'peace' group that embraces violence".

-co-founder Adam Shapiro in the Jordan Star, Shapiro "justifies the Palestinian armed resistance against Israel

- Various sources attribute to ISM the statement that suicide bombing is "noble".

- ISM has been accused of being linked to the suicide bombers that attacked the Mike's Place bar in Tel Aviv on April 30, 2003, killing three people.

- On March 27, 2003, Shadi Sukiya, who, according to Israel, was a senior Islamic Jihad member and participated in a number of thwarted armed attacks,[19][20] was arrested in a building in Jenin where the ISM, the Red Cross, and Médecins Sans Frontières rent offices
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Solidarity_Movement#ISM.27s_position_on_violence