Thank you America!!

[AAAintheBeltway]

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... Joe Stalin was DEAD before a lot of people were blacklisted for "working" for him.

Were there people with sympathies for socialism? Yeah, there were. They had suffered through the Depression, and socialism made a certain amount of sense to those who suffered worst. Did that make these people Soviet spies? Or communists at all for that matter?

If you cannot differentiate any distinctions between having "socialist sympathies" and being Soviet spies (or communists of any flavor), then I suggest you do a little simple research. Maybe start with a dictionary. However, just to make things simple, ask yourself this: what possible benefit would be derived by successful highly paid (capitalist) Hollywood producers, writers and actors by being "commies"? (Let alone working for "Uncle Joe")

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I know it's hard to keep facts straight after 50 years of liberal propaganda, which is why Ann Coulter's book Treason is so useful. One of the things she separates is the McCarthy investigation of Soviet spies working in the Defense and State Departments and the House Unamerican Activities Committee investigations of communist influence in Hollywood.

Two additional facts. McCarthy nailed actual spies, although we did not find this out for sure until some 40 years later when the Verona intercepts were made public and confirmed by defectors. Two, no one was prosecuted or blacklisted for having socialist sympathies. The famous question was "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" A lot of people in Hollywood in the '50's found that devilishly difficult to answer, just as Bill Clinton would have trouble with Grand Jury qestions 40 years later. They were dedicated Party members and their allegiance was such that they were making propaganda films under the guise of entertainment. Do you think Washington started investigating them just to have a chance to meet movie stars?

 

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Rather than take apart those lengthy posts about constitutional law misconception by misconception, I would just ask the question: do you really think Thomas Jefferson understood the Constitution to prohibit the states from regulating homosexual sex acts? To even pose the question is to demonstrate its absurdity. Yet somehow Justice Thomas is a jerk because he agrees with 200 years of constitutional law and settled Supreme Court percedent? I remind you that only 17 years ago the Court refused to overturn Georgia's nearly identical sodomy law. What changed, other than gays becoming a rich and powerful political pressure group?

Personally, I think it was a stupid law, but that is not the question. The sole question for the Court is whether or not the state has the authority to make a stupid law.

 

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Rather than take apart those lengthy posts about constitutional law misconception by misconception, I would just ask the question: do you really think Thomas Jefferson understood the Constitution to prohibit the states from regulating homosexual sex acts? To even pose the question is to demonstrate its absurdity. Yet somehow Justice Thomas is a jerk because he agrees with 200 years of constitutional law and settled Supreme Court percedent? I remind you that only 17 years ago the Court refused to overturn Georgia's nearly identical sodomy law. What changed, other than gays becoming a rich and powerful political pressure group?

Personally, I think it was a stupid law, but that is not the question. The sole question for the Court is whether or not the state has the authority to make a stupid law.

You loved the court when it paved the way for Bush to become president, and now you hate the court for its lastest ruling.

Such is the life of a winger.

 

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Why would you care?? you are not an American citizen...you don;t live in this country....shew....it's so obvious that your goal is to light up the board with anti american propaganda....but why?? WHy would you care about our elections? the patriot act?? you clearly have an ulterior motive.

 

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You loved the court when it paved the way for Bush to become president, and now you hate the court for its lastest ruling.

Such is the life of a winger.

You hated the court when it paved the way for Bush to become president, and now you love the court for its latest ruling.

Such is the life of a lying liberal.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

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You loved the court when it paved the way for Bush to become president, and now you hate the court for its lastest ruling.

Such is the life of a winger.

You gotta love these urban myths and admire their tenacity. Sometimes they are not harmless fun though, such as the last mantra of the hardcore do or die Dem's, that the Supreme Court "selected" Bush. This myth is demonstrably a lie. The voters of Florida elected Bush and the responsible state officials followed the law explicitly when the Gore forces tried to turn it into some kind of Latin American banana republic farce. I honestly believe if Hillary had been in charge, she would have sent troops to take ove the polling places and count those chads until they came out right. And we know from Waco what Janet Reno would do to anyone who objected.

The shameful interference in democracy came not form the US Supreme Court but from the Florida Supreme Court, a collection of political hacks who seemed determined to rewrite and ignore the state's laws to get the result their political masters had decreed.

Did the US Supreme Court overstep? Probably, in a strict sense of rigidly respecting federalism. Since the whole concept of federalism has been ash-canned in election matters however, through the Voting Rights Act and endless approtionment lawsuits, their overstepping was at best a minor infringement that was more than offset by the need to save a free election from the outrageous interference of the Florida court.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:



You gotta love these urban myths and admire their tenacity. Sometimes they are not harmless fun though, such as the last mantra of the hardcore do or die Dem's, that the Supreme Court "selected" Bush. This myth is demonstrably a lie. The voters of Florida elected Bush and the responsible state officials followed the law explicitly when the Gore forces tried to turn it into some kind of Latin American banana republic farce. I honestly believe if Hillary had been in charge, she would have sent troops to take ove the polling places and count those chads until they came out right. And we know from Waco what Janet Reno would do to anyone who objected.

The shameful interference in democracy came not form the US Supreme Court but from the Florida Supreme Court, a collection of political hacks who seemed determined to rewrite and ignore the state's laws to get the result their political masters had decreed.

Did the US Supreme Court overstep? Probably, in a strict sense of rigidly respecting federalism. Since the whole concept of federalism has been ash-canned in election matters however, through the Voting Rights Act and endless approtionment lawsuits, their overstepping was at best a minor infringement that was more than offset by the need to save a free election from the outrageous interference of the Florida court.

I don't entirely agree. If Florida's supreme court was shameless, then so was the US supreme court. Both were wrong, and both were partisan in nature.

You can attack the demos for their heavy handedness, but your own party is hardly soft handed. You really are truly myopic in your vision.

What is most amazing to me, is that despite all the noise from the election debacle of 2000, nothing has really changed. No laws were passed, no solution to the problems of voter fraud (on both sides) were enacted, just the typical partisan yelling screaming without an substantial change in the system.

The Democrats are so stupid. They hang on to the past, i.e. Clinton's term in office and the "stealing of the election" crap, rather than looking forward to finding a way to recapture the electorate.

As long as they continue to look backwards, they have nothing much to offer going forward.

 

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The shameful interference in democracy came not form the US Supreme Court but from the Florida Supreme Court, a collection of political hacks who seemed determined to rewrite and ignore the state's laws to get the result their political masters had decreed.

Did the US Supreme Court overstep? Probably, in a strict sense of rigidly respecting federalism. Since the whole concept of federalism has been ash-canned in election matters however, through the Voting Rights Act and endless apportionment lawsuits, their overstepping was at best a minor infringement that was more than offset by the need to save a free election from the outrageous interference of the Florida court.

This is what is great about America because we always see things plain and clear depending on our point of view....I live in Florida and was/am still totally amazed at the 'free pass' the FL . Supreme court gets....The left focuses on the Supreme Court decision, while ignoring the fact that the ONLY way it got to the supreme court was through the State Supreme court action....The Fl Supreme court actually decided to ignore the standing state law and regulations and ordered other actions that were outside it's scope.....The Supreme Courts of both bodies are only supposed to decide on the LEGALITY or the LAWS or interpret the exhibiting laws, In the FL Sup. Court case they ruled that although state laws required all recounts and certifications to be done by ex date, they ordered that rule not only waived, but also, did not give a certification date....they also ordered a few other things that were shocking ...It was truly an amazing and brazen action but again I come back to the black and white issues: The left was upset with the Supreme courts yet was ok with the Florida Supreme court...and the right is the same way...we applaud the Supreme and decry the Florida ....what a country

 

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I don't entirely agree. If Florida's supreme court was shameless, then so was the US supreme court. Both were wrong, and both were partisan in nature.

What is most amazing to me, is that despite all the noise from the election debacle of 2000, nothing has really changed. No laws were passed, no solution to the problems of voter fraud (on both sides) were enacted, just the typical partisan yelling screaming without an substantial change in the system.

The Democrats are so stupid. They hang on to the past, i.e. Clinton's term in office and the "stealing of the election" crap, rather than looking forward to finding a way to recapture the electorate.

As long as they continue to look backwards, they have nothing much to offer going forward.

Not true...Did you see the last major election in Flroida???? the new voting machines ( which eliminate 'chads') ...were broke!!LOL

They also had more staff and guidleines set for chads as well

 

[OPTIONAL777]

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Not true...Did you see the last major election in Flroida???? the new voting machines ( which eliminate 'chads') ...were broke!!LOL

They also had more staff and guidleines set for chads as well

Are you suggesting that the changes that are now in place, if in place in 2000, would have made a difference?