Texan grid

Sounds like Texas in their infinite wisdom opted not to buy the anti-frost packages for their wind turbines. Oddly enough plenty northern regions run their wind turbines just fine. In a bigger leap of self-reliance they opted to have their energy grid off the national one, creating a no back up problem.

You can't fix stupid really.
Ah yes, the "anti-frost packages"...LOL
 
the engineers have to come up with a better wind turbine design.
It has to function during extremely low temperature.

The Russians are very good at designing equipment/processes to function
at extremely low temperature.
 
Heh, years ago from a Florida relative I bought a mid-1980s Mercury sedan that lived it's life in Florida. It had no rear defroster. What a nightmare as I was living in NY at the time. Every winter was a pain in the butt.
Not my cup of tea (juice); but a quick Google claims TX is the #3 citrus producer in the U.S.

It must not be that bad, because I'd expect a bigger jump than this.

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If the cold hangs around though....

Seems like $120 would be a safe bet.
Not a lot of downside risk.
For whatever that's worth.

current temps:

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In Texas, wind power generation overtook coal-fired generation in 2020 for the first time ever, with wind power now accounting for 25 percent of the Texas electricity generation. Natural gas-fired power generation is the leading source of electricity in Texas, with more than 45 percent share.

Find it hilarious that the narrative now is to blame it on green energy, as if green energy had much clout in Texas's energy policy.
 
Not my cup of tea (juice); but a quick Google claims TX is the #3 citrus producer in the U.S.

It must not be that bad, because I'd expect a bigger jump than this.

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If the cold hangs around though....

Seems like $120 would be a safe bet.
Not a lot of downside risk.
For whatever that's worth.

current temps:

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It is that bad, but Texas oranges don't have a big impact on the supply of orange juice.
https://www.visitflorida.com/en-us/eat-drink/facts-about-florida-citrus-oranges.html
In most seasons, more than 90 percent of America's orange juice is made from Florida-grown oranges. Nearly 87 percent of Florida citrus is processed into canned, chilled or frozen concentrated juices.
 
In Texas, wind power generation overtook coal-fired generation in 2020 for the first time ever, with wind power now accounting for 25 percent of the Texas electricity generation. Natural gas-fired power generation is the leading source of electricity in Texas, with more than 45 percent share.
so, whoever said anything about coal in Texas? Sounds like the fossil fuel industry needs to go away if they can't deliver reliably and their main focus tight now is to spend money to smear the competition. Instead of spending that money on getting heat to people's homes.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid.

The main factors: Frozen instruments at natural gas, coal and even nuclear facilities, as well as limited supplies of natural gas, he said. “Natural gas pressure” in particular is one reason power is coming back slower than expected Tuesday, added Woodfin.

“We’ve had some issues with pretty much every kind of generating capacity in the course of this multi-day event,” he said.




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-s-power-woes
 
You completely misunderstand the facts here. A large percentage of energy is generated from "green sources". They all failed miserably. I am a huge proponent of green energy but we can't ignore the fact that those green energy sources, the precise way they are set up and the types chosen, failed badly in Texas.

And the comments by Dan Woodfin only indicate that in addition, the fossil fuel energy generation technology sucks huge time in Texas. In Alaska and northern Canada hydro and natural gas powered generators work perfectly fine in the coldest of winter

Sounds more like someone who completely fucked up in choosing the right technology to get the job done. So typical, morons sitting in American control centers who just are not qualified for the job.

so, whoever said anything about coal in Texas? Sounds like the fossil fuel industry needs to go away if they can't deliver reliably.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid.

The main factors: Frozen instruments at natural gas, coal and even nuclear facilities, as well as limited supplies of natural gas, he said. “Natural gas pressure” in particular is one reason power is coming back slower than expected Tuesday, added Woodfin.

“We’ve had some issues with pretty much every kind of generating capacity in the course of this multi-day event,” he said.




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-s-power-woes
 
You completely misunderstand the facts here. A large percentage of energy is generated from "green sources". They all failed miserably. I am a huge proponent of green energy but we can't ignore the fact that those green energy sources, the precise way they are set up and the types chosen, failed badly in Texas.

And the comments by Dan Woodfin only indicate that in addition, the fossil fuel energy generation technology sucks huge time in Texas. In Alaska and northern Canada hydro and natural gas powered generators work perfectly fine in the coldest of winter

Sounds more like someone who completely fucked up in choosing the right technology to get the job done. So typical, morons sitting in American control centers who just are not qualified for the job.

By your numbers, 25% of the grid is on wind, of which half are affected, so no, they did not all fail miserably. So Texas's grid is down 12% capacity. Where's the other 88% of good old dyno primary? Why are public regulatory agencies lobbying for inflated pricing for the energy companies?

ERCOT to change Texas energy prices to meet high demand amid winter storm
A Public Utility Commission order stated that ERCOT should correct any past prices to reflect the current shortage of energy.
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...ange/269-53ab63e2-8dcf-4485-8b9b-be6ad75316b4

With nearly 4 million Texans in need of power amid the winter storm that struck the state, demand for energy is exceptionally high. The demand has exceeded the supply that the state has to offer.

As a result, the Public Utility Commission of Texas held an emergency meeting on Monday where officials introduced an order that would adjust energy prices. The order said in part, "Energy prices should reflect scarcity of the supply. If customer load is being shed, scarcity is at its maximum, and the market price for the energy needed to serve that load should also be at its highest."

(More at above url)

*** Yeah -- let's go back and retroactively raise prices to $9000 per kilowatt hour and really screw our customers.
 
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