Quote from ddav:
Wrb...., for all of you that have realized that I have a bad habit of talking over your heads, I apologize. I never said I was a great presenter to all, at all times and in all ways. And definitely not in the same story. Let us reserve some time for God, a much better presenter than I.
ddav,
You're "not" talking over anybody's head. Instead, your
talking to avoid discussing the obvious about your method that you continue
hyping.
Let me repeat a well known fact that intelligent traders understand very well.
* Real-trading results with real money will always be different than backtesting results or simulator results. In fact, it's common that simulator or paper trading results will be profitable while trading with real money will be a losing effort due to lack of discipline, lack of capital, inadequate trading environment et cetera. It's all that stuff that a simulator or paper trading results are not able to factor into the equation.
The above is a fact.
Secondly, I don't believe a trader needs to post real-time trades to verified the merits of a trade strategy. However, if you give in and do post a real-time trade...be clear and don't attempt to sweep a losing trade under the rug as you attempted to do when you posted that losing short signal trade @ 774.10 in which the Emini TF soon afterwards did a volatility spike upwards to 776.30 because you will be held accountable as in called out on it as I have done in this message post.
Your poor attempt (presentation) was via saying the following...
Quote from ddav:
...Yes, the last signal is still there and Trade station profit report will use it to calculate the next profit report. (even though Trade station may count that as a loss against the 100%+ AROR, any trader using any reasonable trade management could not have possibly lost money on that trade. Could they??????)...[/img]
Here's the truth I pulled out of your above quote and other past quotes.
* It was not a real trade. Instead, it was a simulator trade result. However, as I stated, you don't need to post real-time trades and your tradestation reports do show LOSSES although most of the trades in the report are profitable as in +69.37%.
* In reference to that one particular Short signal you posted in real-time in this thread...you clearly and obviously try to convince yourself and readers that they could have gotten a profit out of such a big loss via saying
"any trader using any reasonable trade management could not have possibly lost money on that trade".
* I'm not going to post a broker statement showing the results of a trader (you) using a reasonable trade management to verified your personal application of the developer method is ZERO losses that contrast losses shown in the tradestation report of the developer's system.
Would you have allowed a trade in the Emini TF to go more than 2 points against you via "reasonable trade management rules" and then watch it reverse back into a profit ???
ddav, this is what happens when you post a real-time trade signal...you are held accountable and it helps others that need that info to determine the merits of the trade signals.
* I need the developer's permission to post real time signals (he/she has not given permission) but I do have the developer's permission to post charts "after the fact" that show supposedly real time trade signal annotations. Reminder: You did post on real time trade with chart signal annotation...the trade did result as a loss as I noted above. Unless I'm mistaken, the charts you show have only shown profitable trades of the developers trade signals. In contrast, the tradestation reports show losses.
Question...how come you don't show annotated charts to the tick of some of the losing trades in your tradestation reports?
If you do that, you'll remove a lot of the suspicion about your agenda with this thread. If not, proof that your "talking to avoid" the truth as most will do that have something to hide.
Quote from ddav:
...The strategy issues real time signals that are either buy or sell. It is up to the Trader to place orders off the real time signals and manage them as you feel comfortable...
The strategy does not use stops and I only use profit stops and because of that and a bouncy market and my desire never to lose, I get stopped out too many times for too small of a profit after which it then goes. I need a lot of practice with this.
Once again, I do see that's its very odd that you show the developer method having most trades be profitable and other trades be losses in the tradestation reports (see attachment below). In contrast, you're real-trading has ZERO losses and you continue.
Quote from ddav:
...Since I have been testing it this last month, I have not even had a loosing trade with it yet...
What losses?...
More confusing statements by you although you refer to it as "poor presentation"...
Quote from ddav:
...This strategy on the other hand has basically not lost any money even in a week's time since it was created more than a year ago...
The fact is that your own posted tradestation reports do show losses (see attachment below). Contrary, you continue stating that the "strategy" does not have losses when in reality you're actually talking about your own personal trading results that's different from the developer's system assuming the developer's system is represented by the tradestation reports.
If not, whom's trading or system does the tradestation reports represent (your personal trades, developer method or what)???
Other misunderstandings via your poor presentation:
* Whenever you state the strategy has remained tick accurate...some readers have mistaken you to have said the strategy trade signals have been perfect (zero losses). Contrary, the tradestation reports do show losses.
* You have time to post hindsight charts. Contrary, you don't have time to post real-time trade signals except for the one particular one I noted and that trade would have resulted in a loss via any trader using "reasonable trade management rules" in comparison to the system not using stops when the short position @ 774.10 went against the system as much as 776.30 or
-2.20 points.
Yeah, either your presentation as a trade journal is very bad (not intentional) or you have been intentionally mixing the use of the word "system" when talking about the profits and losses in the tradestation reports, no losses in your personal trading or the real time posted trade signal loss that "would have" shown as a loss in the tradestation report but not shown as a loss via any trader using a reasonable trade management.
The fact is that any reasonable trade management rule while trading the volatile Russell 2000 Emini TF futures would not have allowed a day trade to go against the trader by
-2.20 points during a volatility spike upwards. Your attempt to slide that under the rug smells via the crappy (pun intended) excuse you gave about the losing trade.
Just as important, here's your most recent discussion in this thread about losses along with the image of your most recent tradestation report (I edited it to highlight the fact that it does show almost 31% of the trades are losses) to show readers that the developer's method does have LOSSES while your personal trading or application of the trade signals have had UNVERIFIED zero losses...
Quote from ddav:
Attached please find the last week trading objective profit report from Trade station for the strategy...
My use of the strategy has remained consistent over the last month with no losses yet...
Basically you want us to believe that out of your developer's 111 trade signals that contained 34 losing trades...
Your personal trades were ALL profitable. Thus, the tradestation report obviously doesn't represent your personal trading because it contains losses. Therefore, it must represent the developer's actual method...overall it's profitable but it does have losses.
Therefore, you either traded only the developer's winning trades or your trade management rules are good enough to result as a profit while the developer losing trade signal resulted as a loser.
Here's my question for you...are you willing to disclose your
"reasonable trade management rules" that allows you to have NO LOSSES while the developer does have losses.
Yeah, it's possible that any trader can have NO LOSSES in a month of trading part-time of a new method. However, reality is such will never continue and you should be just enjoying your profits with such an excellent trade management rule.
By the way, I've been trading the ICE exchange Russell 2000 Emini TF futures
since it's birth when it was known as the Emini ER2 on the CME exchange. I like it in comparison to something like the S&P 500 Emini ES due to the fact that the Emini TF has much better volatility (a few strong directional intraday price action in the trading day) most of the year in comparison to Emini ES.
I think it's especially suitable for trading if someone is using a volatility base trading method.
P.S. If I were in your shoes...I would contact the developer and sell my "reasonable trade management rules" to him/her because they only have 69.37% profitable trades while you state you have 100% profitable trades. Heck, ask for a refund of the rental fee in return you'll give him/her access to your "reasonable trade management rules".
Of course, any developer will ask for proof as others have done so in this thread.
Mark
