Tesla 2023

VicBee said:
...actually comes from polluting sources and thus it's nonsense to transition to EVs.
Does that sum it up well enough for you?
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I never said it's nonsense to transition to EVs. I do think it is important to reduce our polluting imprint. I just think that people have environmental impact expectations from EVs that are far far lower than what the reality will be, and that the transition to EVs will NOT be as "planet-saving" as everyone hopes.

Fusion is the only hope, and it is far far away from now at the rate we are trying to head towards it.
 
My 2 kilowatts is just the electrical grid buildout needed alone is monumental task.

Likely greater than the interstate highway system, which is still being expanded till this day long after initial construction began in the 1950's.

Long road ahead.
 
Overnight said:
I never said it's nonsense to transition to EVs. I do think it is important to reduce our polluting imprint. I just think that people have environmental impact expectations from EVs that are far far lower than what the reality will be, and that the transition to EVs will NOT be as "planet-saving" as everyone hopes.

Fusion is the only hope, and it is far far away from now at the rate we are trying to head towards it.
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you're not that wrong, though fission's already available and green enough had we taken the issue seriously and ignored nuclear scare mongering:

of the percentage below, about half is passenger vehicles while the rest is commercial

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Cuddles said:
you're not that wrong, though fission's already available and green enough had we taken the issue seriously and ignored nuclear scare mongering:

of the percentage below, about half is passenger vehicles while the rest is commercial

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My concern regarding small reactors is the risk from terrorism or even an accident.
 
VicBee said:
This is why I see TSLA at around 315 by the first week of October. I took the last 2 significant long trends and extrapolated to this one. Today's 8.72% rise confirms the up trend.

Factors contributing to the increase valuation are the expected demand bump due to the new styled Tesla 3, Tesla's significant market share increase in China from 7.5% to 13.2%, and Tesla's increasing other revenue streams.

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Projection is off. Didn't account for Powell and ensuing market drop, which TSLA didn't escape. No longer as confident to hit 315 by 1st week of October unless strong numbers posted or significant news. 290 by Q3 report.
 
I expect a short term bottom today or Monday for indices

Meanwhile TSLA $245 soon will need to hold otherwise Aug 21 gap up will be in play, and of course maybe lower after that. But that is getting ahead things currently and as always TWT.
 
I'm not sure I should be gloating about these graphs. As a strong proponent of the transition to EVs and clean energies, I'm fully aware that traditional automakers and the other industries displaced by political decisions will do their all to slow this transition. This is a game of chicken, no government will allow their auto manufacturing base to go bankrupt and all know it. The UK, which had set a daring objective to be all EV by 2030, is the first to push back the date to the more general 2035. Some European nations, the strongest advocate for the switch to EVs, are now starting to voice their uncertain commitments to that date. There it's not a Right vs Left argument like in the US, it's a workers unions vs government brewing battle.

Tesla is demonstrating that technology isn't to blame, it's the lack of it.

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