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This Is Why Toyota Isn't Rushing to Sell You an Electric Vehicle
Story by Tom McParland • Yesterday 11:40 AM

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Toyota’s hybrid models have been extremely successful, so you would think the automaker would be quick to embrace full electrification like some of its competitors. However, the automaker seems to be taking a somewhat controversial approach to EVs, and a leaked dealer document about the brand’s electrification strategy lays out exactly why.

A Toyota dealer contact sent me this PDF that was sent directly by Toyota corporate to explain to the dealer network why they should expect to see more hybrids on their lots and not so many EVs or PHEVs.


This Is Why Toyota Isn't Rushing to Sell You an Electric Vehicle
Essentially what Toyota is saying here is that sourcing the materials for batteries is going to dramatically increase and therefore the costs and difficulty of getting those materials will subsequently rise. The automaker’s position is that those materials can be turned into a lot more hybrids at more affordable price points versus PHEV and EV models.

Toyota also makes the point that the charging infrastructure in the U.S. right now still has a long way to go before it can handle a proliferation of full EV models on the roadways. The other hurdle for most Americans is that EVs and PHEVs can be expensive compared to their gas or hybrid counterparts. Now that the Inflation Reduction Act has eliminated a substantial chunk of EV/PHEV vehicles that qualify for the tax credit, dealers and automakers are reporting a reduced interest in those vehicles.

I can tell you from my own experience as a professional car shopper, I was getting a lot of requests for cars like the Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq5 when those vehicles first launched and they still qualified for the $7,500 credit. Now that the rules have changed, customers don’t find them to be good values anymore. On the other hand, customer interest in standard hybrids like the all-new Prius is growing. I’ve recently gotten more inquiries on that new Prius than at any point in time in my career when I compare it to the previous generations of Prii. I also have clients willing to wait upwards of 9-12 months to score a Sienna because it’s a hybrid minivan, as compared to an Odyssey that can be sourced now.

Of course, Toyota still offer EV and PHEV models; the bZ4X is off to a slow start while the RAV4 Prime continues to be a hit. The automaker is known for a cautious approach to the market and has historically taken an “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” product strategy. While the future might be electric, for the time being, it seems like the majority of car buyers want something in between.

Na, the Japanese just don’t have the ev technology on par with Elon and the Chinese, once for all.
 
On topic,Tesla is my first outright share purchase ever.Bought 3 or 4 days ago.

Just a thousand dollars but at least you guys can have a real investor to make fun of over the next few months.:D

Long term investment,I acknowledge next 12 months could be a bumpy ride.

I also think Amazon is a good buy but I'll keep you updated on that one.haha
So you made $20/share in 4 weeks... Congrats!
 
While I read a lot of nonsense since the beginning of 2023 about TESLA's demise and sinking share price, I see today that if one bought at the low of 100 in early January they would be up 80 today.

I'm still bullish at 300 sometime before the end of the year.
 
Believe what you want.

No they dont' have the supply chain and all that good stuff, being an island country. I don't remember what my last major household purchase was with Japanese brands. LG and Samsung being Korean, probably Uniqlo, if that is a valuable thing.
 
No they dont' have the supply chain and all that good stuff, being an island country. I don't remember what my last major household purchase was with Japanese brands. LG and Samsung being Korean, probably Uniqlo, if that is a valuable thing.
So you are going to completely ignore the fact Toyota is the number one auto company in the world all the while Japan has been and always will be an island.

Note: I've never owned one so I "have no dog in this fight".

But reality is still, in these crazy days, reality.
 
So you are going to completely ignore the fact Toyota is the number one auto company in the world all the while Japan has been and always will be an island.

Note: I've never owned one so I "have no dog in this fight".

But reality is still, in these crazy days, reality.
Please do enlighten us all about reality.... In yours, TESLA would have been bankrupt long ago and EVs would be nonsense. Reality, you say?
 
Please do enlighten us all about reality.... In yours, TESLA would have been bankrupt long ago and EVs would be nonsense. Reality, you say?
Really?

I said that huh?

Care to post a link?

No huh?

Amazing how you take constructive criticism (along with some non-critical posts that you misread) and spin a yarn in your head.

Blame stoner Elon, not me, for your position being underwater.

HODL = Holding On to Dear Life.
 
So you are going to completely ignore the fact Toyota is the number one auto company in the world all the while Japan has been and always will be an island.

Note: I've never owned one so I "have no dog in this fight".

But reality is still, in these crazy days, reality.

My first car was my uncle’s Toyota camery from 1980. It ran its course to 200k miles. Second car was a small Mazda, utilitarian, nothing special.

Then there is Sony and camera makers, but mobile phones w will kill it at some point.
 
I'm still bullish at 300 sometime before the end of the year.

Looking from a Technical angle I wonder what the catylist would be? Since Jan I've been waiting for a higher high but we don't seem to be getting that.
TSLA is in a down trend if you look at the weekly charts.
A P/E of 53 translates to me that it will take 53 years to earn your money back. If I remember correctly you are an old fart and probably don't have 53 years left.
TSLA is slowly losing it's first mover advantage. Every body and their dog is coming out with an electric car.
TSLA has been dropping price. To me that shows a lack of demand.
As far as I can see the only way that TSLA will get to 300 and then rocket to the moon is if you sell all your shares.:)
 
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