Tesla 2023

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When all the yakking stops.

Oh, and here's the data:
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Let's see.. Puts Tesla ahead of BMW, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Volvo... Looking to add Nissan, Subaru and VW in 2023. And Tesla only sells EVs.
 
Cuddles said:
Let's not pretend like silicon supply chain issues for all OEMs (and a much lesser extent, Tesla) did not happen.

Also:
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ow-the-auto-industry-capitalized-on-pandemic/
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I'm not an economist nor a finance guy but recalling econ 101 from my college years, higher margins are a result of higher demand, not artificial supply constraint as this article states using oil as an example. The higher margins are possible because consumers have had the money (or credit) to buy more expensive cars, but all signals are that we're about to see a glut of payment defaults and, once again, the finance arms of the big 2 will take the motherships down with them to bankruptcy 2 big 2 fail 2.
 
VicBee said:
I'm not an economist nor a finance guy but recalling econ 101 from my college years, higher margins are a result of higher demand, not artificial supply constraint as this article states using oil as an example. The higher margins are possible because consumers have had the money (or credit) to buy more expensive cars, but all signals are that we're about to see a glut of payment defaults and, once again, the finance arms of the big 2 will take the motherships down with them to bankruptcy 2 big 2 fail 2.
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Are you saying a diminishing supply (artificial or otherwise) does not result in higher price of goods? How is higher demand materially different from a diminishing supply when it comes to pricing?
 
Cuddles said:
Are you saying a diminishing supply (artificial or otherwise) does not result in higher price of goods? How is higher demand materially different from a diminishing supply when it comes to pricing?
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If supply and demand drop simultaneously there's equilibrium, provided production costs remain the same. Production costs are responsible for price increases, particularly in the auto manufacturing sector where tooling and supply chain are significant cost factors. So lower supply will lead to higher prices in that case, unless the manufacturer is willing to eat his profit margin. But at some point they will have to increase prices or sell at a loss.
But creating FOMO demand by reducing supply and raising prices is very risky.
Tesla has been struggling to increase supply and increased prices to control demand (30% margin, unheard of in the industry) but as production increases significantly, they will have the flexibility to adjust prices up or down to stimulate or diminish demand.

Not sure I answered your question...
 
Maybe Tesla should try to build normal cars, without gimmicks that don't work. Like the automatic braking system to avoid collisions.

 
virtusa said:
Maybe Tesla should try to build normal cars, without gimmicks that don't work. Like the automatic braking system to avoid collisions.

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in fairness, this auto braking system "gimmick" is part of many "normal" higher end vehicles. They're just sensible enough to not use customer cars as development mules
 
Cuddles said:
in fairness, this auto braking system "gimmick" is part of many "normal" higher end vehicles. They're just sensible enough to not use customer cars as development mules
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Will the owner of this Tesla pay all the damage? Where I live it is forbidden by law to brake if there is no reason for it. In this situation it is up to the Tesla driver to proof he had a valid reason.
 
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