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Originally posted by Thug_Life
<i>StatTrader

04-03-02 09:45 AM
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anyone know what the minimum balance is to open a IB account to trade futures ?

thanks</i>

Where is all that money going if you are asking about account minimums at IB?

(just an honest question)

Dam! Can't get nuttin by my man Thug Life...hahah:D
 
Originally posted by Thug_Life
<i>StatTrader

04-03-02 09:45 AM
IB
anyone know what the minimum balance is to open a IB account to trade futures ?

thanks</i>

Where is all that money going if you are asking about account minimums at IB?

(just an honest question)

i wasn't asking for myself smartass.
 
I said it was an honest question.

I assume you are in NYC? After fed, state, city income tax and property tax, as well as all the big-city-specific little things like paying for parking, etc., how many of those 300 G's do you actually take home?

How many hours do you work a week?
 
This is my fourth year in the business. The best traders that I know all went to average colleges, had less than average G.P.A.'s, and started out in the financial business either cold calling or were brought in to daytrade by friends in the industry.
 
Originally posted by Thug_Life
I said it was an honest question.

I assume you are in NYC? After fed, state, city income tax and property tax, as well as all the big-city-specific little things like paying for parking, etc., how many of those 300 G's do you actually take home?

How many hours do you work a week?

net monthly comes to 7K less 2K mortgage\maint\tax (this isn't typical as i have a small mortgage) and 2K food\travel\going out leaves about 3K to save.... but i save all my annual bonus, so in all, keep about 150K.

hours - 8 to 6.
 
Originally posted by StatTrader
It's easy to knock the benefits of a decent education if you weren't able to get one for whatever reason.

Fact remains though that the average Ivy league grad probably makes 4-5 times what the average guy makes, and anyone making a few hundred K a year isn't likely to bother with daytrading.

IMO, most people entering daytrading probably aren't able to make big bucks in a regular job and have some pipedream of making it big someday. Statistics would prove otherwise though. The number of daytrading millionaires is minisule. Contrast this with any Wall St. firm, where you'll find virtually everyone is a millionaire by their late 20s.


Wow, what an arrogant post.

First off, to accuse someone of sour grapes just because they aren't ivy league is pretty stupid. I could get into an academic credentials pissing contest with anyone on this board, but what's the point? It's ridiculous.

Second, not everyone on this site are daytraders, and there are peeps here in multiple categories making big money.

Thirdly, most of the money made on Wall Street is earned by ripping off the public. Why do you think the big brokers are getting cornholed by the government right now? Because the truth is out, that the majority of the wall street crowd are high class pimps, carnival barkers and con men. Just because you wear a suit doesn't mean you are respectable. My main reason for not working on Wall St is because I'm not an a**hole.

Fourthly, the ivy league money machine is drying up. The free profits milked from John Jerk are disappearing as the public wises up. All those connected frat boys with pedigrees are going to have to do some actual work to earn their cash. Including you.
 
Another thing, consider these two choices....

A. Working for Goldman from 7-4 every day, with the associated hassles of the commute, internal politics, and being answerable to a bureacracy... salary $300k, say

B. Working for yourself, freedom of thought, action and total responsibility: 'salary': anything from wipeout to a lot

It boils down to personality-type... no correct answer... those with a more philosophical outlook on work-life balance who have confidence in their trading abilities and who seek freedom will go for 2... those who seek a greater degree of certainty and structure will go for 1...
 
Originally posted by darkhorse

the smarter you are the dumber you are.

darkhorse,

if you re-read your first post, it just oozes sour grapes.... just highlighting my view that the original question isn't likely to get an unbiased response here.

i'm just posting to provide another point of view.
 
Originally posted by StatTrader


i'm at GS.... to give you some background info, i have a BS degree but it isn't from an Ivy league school. joined my first Wall St. firm in '95 and my year on year salary progression since has been (rounded to the nearest 10K).

1995 50K
1996 125K
1997 180K
1998 200K
1999 250K
2000 300K
2001 325K
2002 ?

i'm definately not the smartest or most successful guy of my intake either so i think i'm pretty representative of what is still typical these days.

Thanks...you've help make an excellent point here. Entry level jobs for new people will start with basic salaries, and those who have been around for a decade or so can make some money. I applaud your candor, and wish you continued success.

Which division of GS are you with? About how many in your division? Is your compensation somehow adjusted for performance? Bonuses are still a big part, am I correct?

This is good information.....keep up the good work!!

Don :)
 
Originally posted by StatTrader


darkhorse,

if you re-read your first post, it just oozes sour grapes.... just highlighting my view that the original question isn't likely to get an unbiased response here.

i'm just posting to provide another point of view.



You think I'm jealous of intelligent people? Want to compare degrees? Vocabulary? IQ? I'd be willing to bet a thousand bucks that I am smarter than you, have more pedigrees than you, and even have a bigger vocabulary than you do. But none of that matters in trading, which is exactly the point I am trying to make.

You obviously consider yourself "smart," but you are so full of yourself that you can't help talking out of your ass. You are a case in point of why intelligence + no common sense = idiot.
 
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