Ted Cruz, Rand Paul top huge Tea Party poll

[jem]

fiscal responsibility which includes jobs and immigration is what is going to cleave the republicans and democrats apart.
it is just going to take one good leader.

the union rank and file will form up with the other tax payers in America.

the platform will be very low or zero personal income tax.
balanced budget and reduced size of govt.
a flat tax on corporations who do business here.
policies which protect and encourage jobs and manufacturing
controlled immigration
and I am sure some sellout point to the Federal Reserve and Wallstreet because they have the money.
reduced role of world wide policeman
energy production here
social issues will be left up to the states where they belong.
permanent daylight savings time for states who opt for it and double daylight savings time is ok as well.
In short the states will inform the Feds of their choice... not the other way around.

Most likely the Tea Party and the old line republicans will have a serious falling out by 2016 and split the Republican half of the lunatic vote over who is more in favor of God, Guns and the Flag, or possibly over who is the greater protector of fetuses and hates the IRS the most. That could assure a democrat victory, especially if the democrats run a popular movie star, quarterback, or half black, half Hispanic dancing with the stars winner. Of course if a splinter group comes along and also splits the democrat lunatic vote, then who knows.

 

[futurecurrents]

Most likely the Tea Party and the old line republicans will have a serious falling out by 2016 and split the Republican half of the lunatic vote over who is more in favor of God, Guns and the Flag, or possibly over who is the greater protector of fetuses and hates the IRS the most. That could assure a democrat victory, especially if the democrats run a popular movie star, quarterback, or half black, half Hispanic dancing with the stars winner. Of course if a splinter group comes along and also splits the democrat lunatic vote, then who knows.

Yeah, that's about right. The GOP is toast. The progress of modern world, science and ethics have left them in the manure pit where they belong. Progress always drags the conservatives kicking and screaming, and progress is happening ever faster each year.

 

[Lucrum]

Yeah, that's about right. The GOP is toast. The progress of modern world, science and ethics have left them in the manure pit where they belong. Progress always drags the conservatives kicking and screaming, and progress is happening ever faster each year.

 

[futurecurrents]

^ What an idiot.

 

[trefoil]

Ted Cruz or Rand Paul would be like Goldwater all over again. But by now that's needed. The Dems did McGovern once, and never went back to that well. Goldwater was eight years before that, so I guess by now, as most of those who can remember what a disaster that was for the Repubs are gone, it's time for a repeat. Gotta let the loonie wing of the party have its day once every lifetime. Probably some kinda natural law about that.
The Dem loonie side is gaining strength as well, so we're probably due for a McGovern repeat in 2024, give or take four years. Y'all can get one into the WH when that happens. Won't happen otherwise.

 

[LEAPup]

Yeah, that's about right. The GOP is toast. The progress of modern world, science and ethics have left them in the manure pit where they belong. Progress always drags the conservatives kicking and screaming, and progress is happening ever faster each year.

What do you consider progress, btw? Very important question if we're to get in the mind of a true American enemy.

And do you REALLY want to take a Country back to a MASSIVE government where FREEDOM was but a dream? Our Founders LITERALLY risked their balls to cross the Atlantic with a sail and a dream to start a TRULY FREE country, yet you embrace what they left hundreds of yrs ago...

Why is that?

What are the benefits?

I look forward to your response.

 

[Covertibility]

What do you consider progress, btw? Very important question if we're to get in the mind of a true American enemy.

And do you REALLY want to take a Country back to a MASSIVE government where FREEDOM was but a dream? Our Founders LITERALLY risked their balls to cross the Atlantic with a sail and a dream to start a TRULY FREE country, yet you embrace what they left hundreds of yrs ago...

Why is that?

What are the benefits?

I look forward to your response.

Where did you learn history?

George Washington birthplace: , Westmoreland County, VA
Thomas Jefferson birthplace: Shadwell, VA
John Hancock birthplace: Braintree, Massachusetts
Ben Franklin : Boston, Massachusetts
James Madison: Belle Grove Plantation, Virginia
John Adams: Quincy, Massachusetts
John Jay: New York City

They didn't cross the Atlantic. And the right wing back in those days were the Tories who were loyal to the crown.
Teadiots!

 

[jem]

And classical liberals back then would roll over in their grave at the anti constitutional stunts obama and his fascist party are pulling now.

don't even think of equating today's democrat party with the classical liberals who made the western world great.

the closet thing to a classical liberal now is a libertarian or a tea party person.
and don't conflate tea party with evangelicals.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

The Tea Party movement is an American political movement that is primarily known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing U.S. government spending and taxes.[1][2] The movement has been called partly conservative,[3] partly libertarian,[4] and partly populist.[5] It has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.[6][7][8]

...

The Tea Party does not have a single uniform agenda. The decentralized character of the Tea Party, with its lack of formal structure or hierarchy, allows each autonomous group to set its own priorities and goals. Goals may conflict, and priorities will often differ between groups. Many Tea Party organizers see this as a strength rather than a weakness, as decentralization has helped to immunize the Tea Party against co-opting by outside entities and corruption from within.[21]
The Tea Party has generally sought to avoid placing too much emphasis on traditional conservative social issues. National Tea Party organizations, such as the Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks, have expressed concern that engaging in social issues would be divisive.[21] Instead, they have sought to have activists focus their efforts away from social issues and focus on economic and limited government issues.[22][23] Still, many groups like Glenn Beck's 9/12 Tea Parties, TeaParty.org, the Iowa Tea Party and Delaware Patriot Organizations do act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration.[22][23][24]

2. And don't forget the tea party is more educated than you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html?_r=0

Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

Where did you learn history?

George Washington birthplace: , Westmoreland County, VA
Thomas Jefferson birthplace: Shadwell, VA
John Hancock birthplace: Braintree, Massachusetts
Ben Franklin : Boston, Massachusetts
James Madison: Belle Grove Plantation, Virginia
John Adams: Quincy, Massachusetts
John Jay: New York City

They didn't cross the Atlantic. And the right wing back in those days were the Tories who were loyal to the crown.
Teadiots!

 

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Where did you learn history?

George Washington birthplace: , Westmoreland County, VA
Thomas Jefferson birthplace: Shadwell, VA
John Hancock birthplace: Braintree, Massachusetts
Ben Franklin : Boston, Massachusetts
James Madison: Belle Grove Plantation, Virginia
John Adams: Quincy, Massachusetts
John Jay: New York City

They didn't cross the Atlantic. And the right wing back in those days were the Tories who were loyal to the crown.
Teadiots!

funny Take into consideration leap thinks Lucrum is smart.

 

[Lucrum]

Where did you learn history?

George Washington birthplace: , Westmoreland County, VA
Thomas Jefferson birthplace: Shadwell, VA
John Hancock birthplace: Braintree, Massachusetts
Ben Franklin : Boston, Massachusetts
James Madison: Belle Grove Plantation, Virginia
John Adams: Quincy, Massachusetts
John Jay: New York City

They didn't cross the Atlantic. And the right wing back in those days were the Tories who were loyal to the crown.
Teadiots!

So NONE of the founding fathers were born abroad?