Technical analysis :useless junk science

Quote from cornixforex:

Brother Oily, do you realize that fact of failures existing and % of those failures of raw TA setups has absolutely nothing to do with the fact if those setups are junk or not?

Do you understand that pattern may not "fail" only 20% of time, but still have a great edge?

You are interested in trading for years, how comes you do not understand such basic ideas of speculation as a game of odds?

My back testing and making over 100 eas taught me a lot about probabilities , far beyond what you guys know.

Your psychology is great by E T standards ,it is probably better than your understanding of the real trading psychology.
 
Quote from oilfxpro:

My back testing and making over 100 eas taught me a lot about probabilities , far beyond what you guys know.

But you are still not consistent, which is not a surprise with being addicted to EA's aka "magic formula". Sadly, but Xspurt pointed it out very well. So all you know is what is wrong, not what is correct in trading.

You have all signs of chronic "holy grail" "get rich quick" "fairy comes and turns Cinderella into a princess" you call it a name, digger, not trader who treats this profession as a serious profession and is willing to learn how to make money applying the knowledge.
 
Quote from Xspurt:

However Oily has a few threads on depression and perhaps there is a connection.

Some gamblers want to lose, it's deep in their psyche. Certainly there is something causing a mental blockage that is beyond any help I could offer.I'd suggest you try betting on horses to lose. It's a big market and the odds are more in your favor, but again you need to study to understand when a stable needs a horse to lose to reduce handicap weight and increase odds before the big hit.


If trader gets failure after failure from technical analysis , he is bound to become depressed.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=236978

What is the difference between betting on horses and betting on strong trends ?One you are betting on the form of the trend and the other , you are betting on the form of horses based on previous performance.
 
Quote from oilfxpro:

If trader gets failure after failure from technical analysis , he is bound to become depressed.

Great, you see the main psychological problem which stops most from becoming consistent. Solve it and you'll get a chance.

Indeed, most simply fail to accept the fact that losses are integral part of successful speculation/investment. They desperately try to find "magic formula" to avoid those losses, because they are taught from early years that losing is bad, negative result is something done wrong etc.

Exactly this cause is the reason there are so few people successful in business, trading, investment and other activities which require taking risks and accepting uncertain outcome as well as losses on a regular basis.

Your perfect example with being stopped out 2 times with 3 ticks stop if one was to trade the breakout of yesterday's channel in Euro. See, you treat those losses as something going wrong, something negative. But in reality: if you just accepted them, what stopped you from trying it again and getting the big move right into your pocket far exceeding the amount lost on previous tries to go long?

Think about it seriously, learn to lose correctly and you'll learn to win.
 
Quote from oilfxpro:

If trader gets failure after failure from technical analysis , he is bound to become depressed.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=236978

What is the difference between betting on horses and betting on strong trends ?One you are betting on the form of the trend and the other , you are betting on the form of horses based on previous performance.

A stable has high costs for stabling, training, feeding, vets, traveling etc. and winning often doesn't cover the costs so stables have to bet on their horses to make money. That means they have to fool the form book.

You're in the UK. There are speed spies who use high power binoculars and stop watches to figure out when a horse is in top shape on the gallops. Betting patterns on stables matched with this can tell you when the form book is false.

You can get similar false data on the markets like Enron when the analysts were issuing buy signals all the way to the bottom because of conflicts of interest while TA was saying - you gotta be joking.

I think you'd do better on horses with EA's, especially if you focus on picking favorites to lose.
 
Quote from cornixforex:

Great, you see the main psychological problem which stops most from becoming consistent.

Solve it and you'll get a chance.

Indeed, most simply fail to accept the fact that losses are integral part of successful speculation/investment.

They desperately try to find "magic formula" to avoid those losses, because they are taught from early years that losing is bad, negative result is something done wrong etc.

Exactly this cause is the reason there are so few people successful in business, trading, investment and other activities which require taking risks and accepting uncertain outcome as well as losses on a regular basis.


learn to lose correctly and you'll learn to win.


Cfx,

this is correct at so many levels.

excellent reply.
 
Quote from cornixforex:

Thanks, ET.

All just personal experience and observations. :)

There are no universities in the Siberian jungle , so you learn psychology through personal experience and observations.
 
Quote from oilfxpro:

There are no universities in the Siberian jungle , so you learn psychology through personal experience and observations.

Oh my dear, there are many large universities in Siberia, world famous scientific institutes etc.

And my communications at home are through the optical cable going right into the apartment for just $30 a month. :D
 
Quote from Xspurt:



I think you'd do better on horses with EA's, especially if you focus on picking favorites to lose.


Here is a 60 pip spike, indicators are up , trend lines are up and old ta farts have been taken out with their 3 pip stops .
 

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