Technical Analysis, from a Quant's Perspective

I am regretful in the third parabola oh Great Teacher.

It is not for us mutrons to attempt to re-elucidate the proclamations of the Enlightened Ones.
 
I read something by a quant on TA where he had a 90% win rate. Using Shapiro-Wilkes W statistics rendered normal by log transformation, subsequent analyses using log-transformed data using a suitably large eugonadal reference population across multiple commercial immunoassay platforms, with statistically significant, but only quantitatively minor, variations between assays.
 
Quote from Crowbar:

No difference - drunk or sober. Bable Bable blah blah.

I'm sure you meant babble. However, if you look closely, you'll notice the person to whom you responded doesn't have the same username as Jack Hershey.

- Spydertrader
 
Jack - More people will read your stuff if you don't include my name in the title of it. A very clear explanation of what you are currently doing. I see that you suffer in your old age from the same syndrome I do, the inability to resist overcomplicating things. Exclusively an engineer's disease, I think. Glad you are looking at fast charts. It really is academic which leads which, P or V. As Steve46 wrote recently, what counts is the alternation from price stationarity to price randomness and back. As to predicting that for an index future's, there's an easier method than imagining a relationship to another index that gives a full minute's warning. I use it every day in NQ. But only until I get those two bottles of Gloria. Don't want to overuse it, or it might quit working, like your stuff, haha!. Best regards. - Mike
 
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Jack - More people will read your stuff if you don't include my name in the title of it. A very clear explanation of what you are currently doing. I see that you suffer in your old age from the same syndrome I do, the inability to resist overcomplicating things. Exclusively an engineer's disease, I think. Glad you are looking at fast charts. It really is academic which leads which, P or V. As Steve46 wrote recently, what counts is the alternation from price stationarity to price randomness and back. As to predicting that for an index future's, there's an easier method than imagining a relationship to another index that gives a full minute's warning. I use it every day in NQ. But only until I get those two bottles of Gloria. Don't want to overuse it, or it might quit working, like your stuff, haha!. Best regards. - Mike

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the argument over whether TA is subjective is kind of silly.

similar to whether Fundamentals are subjective.

both can (and usually do) employ INTEPRETATION, which is of course subjetive, as people use them

however, some trading systems and rules, whether based on Fundies, TA, or both can be entirely objective.

for example.

If a trade setup is : buy YM @ close if TRIN > 1.9 and price < R2 and volume >= 1.2 times average volume over last 20 days

that is entirely objective.

and purely a TA setup.

similarly, one could have a setup, like the "dogs of the dow", which is also entirely objective (several variations, but each are objective)

similarly, a moving average cross is entierly objective.

a dogs of the dow where you buy the 5 dow stocks with the lowest P/E is an objective fundies approach.

a fundamentals approach that is more peter lynchian, is of course more subjective
 
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I'll wait a week or two, giving you a chance to explore the Wealth Lab website, look up those authors' books on Amazon, and perhaps do a bit of poking around on your own, either using Google or (gasp!) visiting a bookstore or library.

(gasp!) Successful automated TA systems with verified real-time track records are not available at these sources!? Systems at Wealth Lab are very weak. Your TA books serve up lots of general gobble-de-gook and verbage and fluff...

Please post specific details(Easy Language code ,or other code) on only one of the many mechanical TA systems for us to understand systematic non-subjective automated trading which uses TA chart interpretation (so even a quant can appreciate real-time performance).
 
Quote from bighog:

marketsurfer is wrong, TA is NOT subjective.

A bull flag is a bull flag, if support is broken it is broken. TA is not subjective, the problem arises in interpreting what is basic common everyday patterns, setups, pivots, trendlines, triangles, reversal setups, etc, etc on and on.

Once a trader utilizes his/her interpretation of all the basics within TA they are ready to rock and roll. The skill required to thus not subjective, it is a well honed skillset that is used in the same manner and with consistent timing relative to what the mind (intuition) says should be done.

That being the case, it makes further sense to my mind that the quants are the ones that are beating their heads against the wall in attempting to BEAT the mkt. Quants are always on the hunt for another niche to crack, they are always trying to unwrap the next angle. More power to them, some find temporary dodads to exploit, however the nitch will fall away as profitable as others also use it .

The beauty of non-subjective TA is simply that the simple stuff works, always has always will. WHY? Because it takes time to realize how simple it really is and since trading has such a high rate of turnover..............newbies that have yet not found the EASY fork in the road. They keep feeding those that have done the grunt work.


KISS



define a "bull flag" so that it can be tested.

thank you,

surf



ps. many thanks to <b>MAGNA</b> for sending me a PM regarding this thread. otherwise it would have been lost forever:D
 
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