Technical Analysis = CRAP

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It surprises me that some traders still have the illusion that by using technical analysis they are able to predict the direction of the market.

Let's say for the sake of the subject that today some brilliant mind came up with an indicator that indeed is able to predict the market. Let's call this indicator "moneymaker" :D ! Now don't go running to the fridge to get that bottle of Dom Perignon just yet...

A) At a certain point in time (let's call this "T") the moneymaker signals that the market is about to go up!

You buy and with that you enter a long position. Smart move because the moneymaker signals a rising price.

B) At T+11 (or 19, 37 or 76) the moneymaker signals that the market is about to go down again.

You sell and with that you close your long position and collect your profits. Smart move since the moneymaker just signals a falling price. Profits in the pocket open that Dom Perignon the sabrage way (with a sword)! Or...

All seems very logic right?
Now I have two questions for you:
1. Who is dumb enough to sell in situation A? Would you sell? Who the f*ck is going short while the moneymaker, the brilliant technical indicator indicates that prices are going to rise!? So you can buy all you want, but there is no seller!
2. Who is dumb enough to buy in situation B? Would you buy? Who the h*ll is going long while the moneymaker indicates that prices are falling!? So you can sell all you want, but there is no buyer!

If, yes IF technical analysis is able to predict the market, that same magical ability would kill the ability to predict the direction of the market by itself.

Whenever you enter the market you have a 50% that it goes up and a 50% chance that it goes down. The trick is to limit your losses and ALWAYS let your profits run.

Quit following the advice on the use of TA that all the scammers on the internet try to give you in return for hundreds or thousands of dollars. They are the ones that failed in becoming profitable by trading. And now they are trying to make money by teaching you about technical indicators. Apart from the fact that it is useless, the info on TA is also to be found for free on the internet.

Shaka :cool: !

Frits Altenburg
P.s. this advice was for free :)

I'll assume the you are a brilliant guy and you have a refrigerator.

I have the signal generator and I gave it away for free.

It does not predict. Prediction is not necessary. Try hard to get out of your mind using OODA (John Boyd) to take signals that you think predict and are worth betting upon to make money.

I do not use money management nor stops and my signal generator sees that the markets have neither noise nor anomalies.

You have situation A and B on your mind so go look at the DOM of any liquid market. My published signal generator works in any market that is liquid.

I do not do entry/exit trades. I am all in from the open to the close of RTH.

Check out the detractors; the people with the fixations who use my name in any way. They HAVE to do the following:

1. enter/exit.
2. bet using OODA
3. use money management out of their fears,
4. use risk manangement to deal with the anxieties.
5. bitch at things they do not understand.

I replaced those things with support, comfort and confidence feelings ALL the time. This comes from knowing that you know ALL of the time.

1. became hold/reversal
2. became MADA
3. became carving turns using 12 leading indicators of price.
4. became banking profit segments according the the market's offer. (sentiment segment after sentiment segment)
5. became helping others to learn for over 50 years.

you need to learn to learn and begin with figuring out how your mind works. You have no perception because you have no inference joining with what you sense. Your mind is empty of facts and information and skills. My mind is fully differentiated. I trade as if I were driving a car. I do not enter or exit my car. Nor do I use money management nor stops. I drive and I reverse. My foot is always with the pedal to the metal. I turn as the road turns for the full 6 1/2 hour drive every day I trade.

A full time trader is a person who has not yet learned to trade to take the market's offer. The offer is so hugh it precludes having to trade full time to satisfy one every need or want.

you can see, simply that this thread is filled with comments from people who trade in a context of fear, anxiety and anger. They have simply been learning failure for years and years. You are too.

Learn to fully differentiate your mind just like you did to learn to drive a car.

TA is the driving force for taking the full offer of the market all of the time the offer is made. Time is not a market variable.

There is zero competition to take the market's offer. Absolutely NO ONE is there to STOP you. Just sit on the correct side of the market all of the time. Follow the OOE. (Order of Events). 1, 2, 3, FTT and repeat. Just one pattern. B2B 2R 2B for long and R2R 2B 2R for short. Do a search and find out.

When I first posted results, Nitro (who blew out) said I photo shopped. How wrong he was. I stopped posting prints.

What I did was post the answers to all questions (or had someone else post the answers) so they would be there for anyone who came up with a question. That era is over.
 
EMG, I've been daytrading since '98.....things are going well.

Thank you for your concern though and good luck to you.

Quote from emg:

you should give up trading. I am 99.99% sure u are losing and will lose.

Put this on your fridge

More than 90% of small traders lose in a "Spectacular Fashion." They just lose!!

Good Luck and hope this advise help
 
I used to read threads like this with great interest, when I first started out. Then I pulled up a chart and learned how to trade.

It seems Frits has concluded that concept of intraday trading is a scam. And he has compelling evidence. He tried to follow Rockwell Trading's calls for a whole year. I think that is the final nail in the coffin, both for TA and for daytrading!

You guys should check out Frits' site: http://www.daytradingscam.com/


Frits Altenburg 6 maanden geleden
The Rockwell Trading Scam

Besides my work I trade futures as a hobby. I feel mandatory to share this story with my fellow futures traders. Takes about 10 minutes to read and will save you heaps of dollars. But more important it will save you from becoming a mental wreck.

Tuesday 13th October 2009 I joined Rockwell Trading from Austin Texas USA. Today it’s Sunday 31st October 2010 and I haven’t made 1 US Dollar profit through the Rockwell Strategies in the past 12 months. Further on in this story you’ll find some actual results of the 6 weeks I administered ALL of their trades (shadow trading). I think it is time to share MY personal story about the, in MY opinion Rockwell Trading Scam. From here on I will refer to Rockwell Trading as RWT.

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During the summer of 2010 I started looking for alternative trading strategies. Still there was the frustration why I couldn’t make any money with the RWT strategies while RWT showed profits somewhere between $100 to $1000 in each “week in review”!
 
Quote from Neenisti:

Excuse me???

Why would you make this comment instead of just correcting my misconception. If I'm wrong, or was given incorrection information please point to where I can fix it.

Unless your comment was unfounded and the information doesn't exist.

you are excused.

The greatest innovation in trading in modern times was done by two guys from Ohio.
 
Quote from Fireplace:

I didnt ask about charts, I asked about price action.

Can you define 'insider activity'?

Price action is moronic because the insiders pay no attention to it. Only dumb retail is tricked into thinking price action has any value. The market herself is bent in deceiving you. She is the great harlot that not only will take your money, she will take your life by causing you to waste it on the wrong path.
 
Hasn't been my experience. Sure first couple years were spent learning but since late '99 I have been successfully trading full time and have never looked back. I'm sure a lot of people waste their time but the serious traders learn what they need to learn in order to thrive.

Quote from Dalmation:

Price action is moronic because the insiders pay no attention to it. Only dumb retail is tricked into thinking price action has any value. The market herself is bent in deceiving you. She is the great harlot that not only will take your money, she will take your life by causing you to waste it on the wrong path.
 
Quote from Dalmation:

Price action is moronic because the insiders pay no attention to it. Only dumb retail is tricked into thinking price action has any value. The market herself is bent in deceiving you. She is the great harlot that not only will take your money, she will take your life by causing you to waste it on the wrong path.

Yeah, I can see how actual records of time and sales would be deceptive.

Are you kidding? Price movements are the actual buys and sells of those "insiders", who drive the vast majority of volume on the exchanges. Unless you are saying that they don't pay attention to their own buying and selling activity, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Even if we assume that all "insiders" respond to are illegal tips, don't they eventually have to act on that insider information by actually going out any buying or selling, thus creating "price action"? You really don't think that retail traders are the ones driving day-to-day price movements, do you?
 
Quote from lornz:

I used to read threads like this with great interest, when I first started out. Then I pulled up a chart and learned how to trade.

It seems Frits has concluded that concept of intraday trading is a scam. And he has compelling evidence. He tried to follow Rockwell Trading's calls for a whole year. I think that is the final nail in the coffin, both for TA and for daytrading!

You guys should check out Frits' site: http://www.daytradingscam.com/

Maybe you should read threads likes these with at least "some" interest before you post messages that are full of worthless information.

- the website you mention is not mine nore do I have any connections with the webmaster. Wrong information
- I already posted ages ago (also in this thread) that I got scammed. No news value there.
- Why would I think day trading in general is a scam while in this same thread I posted the basics of my trading approach and strategy? Not your brightest remark.

This thread is about TA and not about me, so I suggest we stick to the subject. If you want to talk about me then start a new threat and please, please make sure your info is correct.

Trade well mate!

Shaka:cool: ,


Frits
 
Quote from Frits:

Maybe you should read threads likes these with at least "some" interest before you post messages that are full of worthless information.

- the website you mention is not mine nore do I have any connections with the webmaster. Wrong information
- I already posted ages ago (also in this thread) that I got scammed. No news value there.
- Why would I think day trading in general is a scam while in this same thread I posted the basics of my trading approach and strategy? Not your brightest remark.

This thread is about TA and not about me, so I suggest we stick to the subject. If you want to talk about me then start a new threat and please, please make sure your info is correct.

Trade well mate!

Shaka:cool: ,


Frits

I apologize, I meant to say "Frits' favorite site". There you and your ilk can condemn TA after failing to find the holy grail in some snake oil salesman's system.

I guess the stupidity of your first post triggered a neuroplastic process, thus changing my neural connections and subsequently temporarily relieving me of my grammatical skills. It is just difficult to process such ignorant comments, made by someone who clearly does not know what he is talking about.

I did not know that you've posted your strategy in this thread. You cannot assume a profitable trader would want to wade through 68 pages of garbage.

I want to emphasize that this post is not really directed at you personally, but at your kind. I've seen far too many arrogant, ignorant posters on this board over the years. At some point I have to speak up.
If you would only spend a small portion of your time actually thinking rationally about how to approach the market as you spend berating concepts you do not grasp, perhaps you would be able to become profitable.

Maybe you could form a TA study group with marketsurfer, you both could learn how to trade....

That advice was free too! :cool:
 
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