Tea Party, thinkin about it.

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The problem with libertarianism is that it is no different than socialism. Socialism cannot work because if every one gets the same thing, no matter how hard or how little they work, everyone will just stop working.

Libertarians believe that if you let people just do their thing, then everything will work itself out. That is very naive and contrary to history. In fact, the Constitution was written saying that all men are created equal, while slavery was in their midst.

If it was human nature for humans to just "work things out" there would be no laws or nations and this would not even be a conversation.

That is not what libertarians believe. They want liberty not because "everything will work itself out". They want liberty because they rather live in an imperfect world and be free then live in a perfect world and not be free.
 
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Plus he says he went from supporting Bush Senior, to becoming a delegate for the democrats, and campaigning against Bush Senior for clinton, to then voting for Bush Jr. in 2000, how the fuck do you reconcile that?

By voting issues, not party. It ain't that hard.:D

And you are the one saying I call EVERY conservative a racist. That is what you hear, because that is how you think. I was taught young not to use always, never, all or none.

I cannot control what you interpret, I can only suggest you try to improve.

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The last few posts, interesting. Going from Libertarian to Socialism, and then going from big government to socialism, although in earlier posts. Which is it? Is Ron Paul a socialist or a small government guy.

Seems like some of you got a bit confused, or at least it reads that way.



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Quote from Maverick74:

That is not what libertarians believe. They want liberty not because "everything will work itself out". They want liberty because they rather live in an imperfect world and be free then live in a perfect world and not be free.

Free to do what, is the actual question. Being free to openly discriminate is not on the table, and never will be again.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

Free to do what, is the actual question. Being free to openly discriminate is not on the table, and never will be again.

Free to do anything that does not infringe on the liberty of others.

I find it funny that a black man who is a descendant of slaves would choose to be a slave of the government. RCG, you can't be a "little free". You either are free or not.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

That is not what libertarians believe. They want liberty not because "everything will work itself out". They want liberty because they rather live in an imperfect world and be free then live in a perfect world and not be free.

Might read that post again, Mr. Maverick. A 'perfect world' where they are not free? Hardly perfect. I get your point, however, my Libertarian friends certainly have specific ideas about government being small and only used for certain purposes.

And, don't hate me for noticing this, you seem to use the word 'then' when you mean 'than' - not a big deal, considering all the abuses of the language we see here. But, since you are one of the top guys here, I thought I would just offer this up.



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Quote from cgroupman:

The last few posts, interesting. Going from Libertarian to Socialism, and then going from big government to socialism, although in earlier posts. Which is it? Is Ron Paul a socialist or a small government guy.

Seems like some of you got a bit confused, or at least it reads that way.



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That's the problem, libertarians do not really know. They simply want to be "free". Free to do what, what freedoms do you they want that they do not already have?
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

That's the problem, libertarians do not really know. They simply want to be "free". Free to do what, what freedoms do you they want that they do not already have?

You can't be serious.
 
Quote from denner:

lol, you guys are too much. Spin, spin and more spin.

What exactly has this administration done in the past 18 months that would turn RCG from a potential libertarian into an unabashed apologist for all things BHO.

It's well understood that people can and often should change their opinions as the facts present themselves, but as many of us are beginning to notice, RCG has entered complete "flip flop" territory.

Hell, he's more of a flip flopper than Mittens.

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