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Quote from bearcats1980:

I find nothing abnormal or strange about his replies to you. His response to your inquiry was everything typical of how I'd expect a group like his to present themselves. He asked you to review the section of his web site that directly addresses your potential situation/partnership with his group, probably because most of your questions could be answered on his site without him writing everthing verbatim in an email reply back to you.

If anything your response to him came off as nervy and ignorant of the opportunity they are potentially offering you. You are asking these guys to back you with their capital while you trade in a remote location and having never met them, are you not? Their policy of expecting someone such as yourself to cover desk fees incl trading platform and data feed is legitimate. This is how partnerships work. It's give and take. Sounds to me like you want them to hand you their capital on a silver platter.

Further, the fact that they will start you live and don't ask you to dick around on a simulator is the right move. I'm familiar with other firms set up similarily who would ask someone such as yourslelf to trade in sim mode before progressing.

Lastly, you trade 10-lots. Are you thinking you are going to find someone to bring you on their books and let you immediately trade 50, 100 contracts and upwards without you building your way up, or that you'd even be comfortable doing so for that matter?

He didnt ask for your acccount statements because you guys hadn't gotten to that point yet. He was qualifying you, and you probably disqualified yourself from having any chance at a partnership with them by bringing your conversation with him onto a public forum.

I don't understand your concerns.

Look, it's quite simple really. If a person is able to trade the financial markets yielding a profit each and every month that must surely be of interest to any company that has potentially open doors to higher gains.

If you look at the opening of my email to TC Markets! I responded to an add from TC Markets. They were advertisng for prop traders? He pointed me to the website? That alone is a bit odd?

The first and most significant step forward is to look at the persons ability (e.g Profit/loss sheets). That has to be the first step. The second step would be a/c statements, then get the person in, and yes, let them "dick" around on a sim. Highly unlikely that any prop trader would be allowed to go straight to 50/100 lots - so don't know why you would say that?

My concern? Well, think about it. You would be hard put to cover costs and make money for yourself and your costs trading 1 lot at TCA Markets each month? I pay is $600 a month for TT's X Trader. Plus R/T of course. They are asking too much in my opinion considering they were advertising for prop traders!

My opinion sticks - sorry if it makes you want to be contemptuous towards my post!
 
HI:D

I haven't posted for ages here and what do I see? TCA markets!

I think - but I am not sure - that
TCA markets=TCA futureS = TCA financial Ltd = thetradersclearingalliance.
Many names, many identities : nothing to hide?

For people to voice their concerns about a company ... means that you have to look VERY hard and have your own solicitor whenever you want to do business with them.

In Britain, some companies - actually very few of them - do ask you to pay them for the privilege of trading with them - any lots. In Britain, some companies - actually very few of them- make money out of the fees and "traders" turnover. These rare companies do not make their turnover from market trading profits, so the more traders they get through the door, the more money they make.

Some rare companies do quit Britain ( or London as pointed out) when they are well known for "looking for fees".

Some very rare companies do ask for your personal details and without you knowing might go and take a loan on your behalf : I finally did manage to understand why some very rare companies ask for personal information - BUT- refuse to say or are very vague when asked at the start what they intend to do with such information.

I know of some £20k-£50k ( $30K-$60K) loans taken by some very rare companies in Britain, but of course on the trader's name. The lucky trader is then allowed to trade bigger lots with this borrowed money. These very rare companies do indeed back their traders

I remember being given the above advices : questions to ask.
To these, I would add : whenever you are asked to provide information, do remember, some very rare companies in Britain, will use this information and might even fake your signature to "facilitate" a loan for you. Who likes being loaded with debts?

To finish, I am opening a remote trader training program. If you are willing to put in some money ( $1000, $2000,...) or even a monthly fee, I will allow you to trade remotely for me. :D
You will of course start with 1 lot:D:D, may be 10 lots. Whenever, I will have managed to get a loan on your behalf, you'll trade as many lots as you want and we'll share 50/50. :D When the money is finished, you will of course have to leave : who likes losers?:p
 
Quote from JustinFX:

Look, it's quite simple really. If a person is able to trade the financial markets yielding a profit each and every month that must surely be of interest to any company that has potentially open doors to higher gains.
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if you were talking about stocks, maybe. When it comes to futures, you could not be more wrong about this assumption. Its not the same as it was 5 years ago. Just read the thread below

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150296
 
Quote from elguapo:

if you were talking about stocks, maybe. When it comes to futures, you could not be more wrong about this assumption. Its not the same as it was 5 years ago. Just read the thread below

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150296

It is not an assumption!

I have made contact with a few big companies, well known names, profitable traders etc. The first message I get is "send your PnL sheets" My yearly revenues are just not high enough to meet the criteria of these larger companies.
 
1) How much do (did) you make PER DAY, AFTER FEES?

2) How much are (were) your fees , per contract (exclusive of TT, data, etc. ie, strictly trading-related commisions, exchange fees+ clearing fees)

PM me if you are not comfortable discussing it on the forum.

3) What are the names of the "big companies" you are referring to?





Quote from JustinFX:

It is not an assumption!

I have made contact with a few big companies, well known names, profitable traders etc. The first message I get is "send your PnL sheets" My yearly revenues are just not high enough to meet the criteria of these larger companies.
 
Quote from JustinFX:

Look, it's quite simple really. If a person is able to trade the financial markets yielding a profit each and every month that must surely be of interest to any company that has potentially open doors to higher gains.

i thought this was your assumption. perhaps you're being misunderstood.
 
Quote from bearcats1980:

1) How much do (did) you make PER DAY, AFTER FEES?

2) How much are (were) your fees , per contract (exclusive of TT, data, etc. ie, strictly trading-related commisions, exchange fees+ clearing fees)

PM me if you are not comfortable discussing it on the forum.

3) What are the names of the "big companies" you are referring to?

Thanks for your note. I was looking around last summer and have since managed to gain control of more capital for my own trading.

The problem for me was that (and still is) my trading is not in the same league as the companies that sometimes look for traders. My assumpütion was that a profitable trader might get access to bigger things on aproven track record.

FYI here are just some of the companies that I made contact with

Global Exchange Trading
Heron Futures
Schneider group
Saxon Financials
First New York Securities LLC
Tudor Investments
RBS
Commerzbank
Morgan Stanley
JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
 
I started with TCA and it was tedious trading on the sim at first, but once I started to build up an account balance it was fine. The mentoring is great and best of all the risk is all theirs!
 
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