tax rates and the constitution

Quote from max401:

Oh, I see, you want the 10% that already pay 80% of the tax bill not to have just that burden, but also not to have any wealth.




If it comes in the form of [much] higher estate (inheritance) taxes, I'm 100% behind it.
 
Quote from tampa:



You sir, are a moron. Did I suggest increasing the tax burden of the rich? No. But being unable to address any thing I have posted, you result to fabrications yet one more time.

I am through with you, my stupid friend. If and when you can deal with what is being said, perhaps we can pick up the conversation again - but not until then.
Hah! Thanks for your reminder and time saver* post.

(*I'll be saving time by not engaging trolls.)
 
Quote from tampa:



Would you be kind enough to provide the name of the last person to get a long prison term for making a small mistake on his tax return?

I'll save you the trouble - you can't because your statement was a gross mistatement - and you knew it when you said it.

You and your friends here are ripe pickin' for the Republicans - you speak without thinking, don't mind lies if it will make your case, and only want to hear what you want to hear. And you are getting screwed by the very gods you worship.

It's true that they don't usually give out long prison terms for making small mistakes. That's not what I said. What I said was that the potential exists. If you've ever had an audit by the IRS you'd know that even if they find a small mistake on your tax filings they carry a potential prison term. Potential. This freaks people out and they makes them spend tons of money to defend themselves from audits. Why do they try to frighten people like that?

Yes I'm speaking from experience. I watched my parents go through audits for three years in row because of some stupid computer program that said they were high risk. Each time they had to spend a ton of money to defend themselves. Not to mention having a team of IRS agents in their place of business for weeks looking through all of their files. Why, because even a small mistake has a potential prison term. They did nothing wrong.

Tampa just because you've never had the experience doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Get your head out of your ass.
 
They spent more money than they made defending themselves legally. Why? Because they thought that they might get fined? Noone is going to spend so much money to defend themselves if all their facing is a small fine. It's because of the potential prison term why they took the extra precautions. Is that fair? Does the IRS give you the money back that you spent on your defense if they decide there hasn't been an error? Nope.
 
Do they pay you back for lost business during the time they made your place look like a fvcking huge drug bust when they find there's nothing wrong with your filing? Nope.
 
Quote from okwon:

They spent more money than they made defending themselves legally. Why? Because they thought that they might get fined? Noone is going to spend so much money to defend themselves if all their facing is a small fine. It's because of the potential prison term why they took the extra precautions. Is that fair? Does the IRS give you the money back that you spent on your defense if they decide there hasn't been an error? Nope.
okwon,

Right on, man! Tampa, sorry, but you are god damn pathetic! :-/

Bush's next mission should be to overthrow the IRS regime!

PP
 
I'm stumped - are you boys simply ignorant, or do you enjoy fabricating things?

No one, I repeat, no one has ever faced a long or a short prison term for making a small mistake while filing their income taxes.

Only those convicted of fraud - the willful attempt, with malice and forethought, to defraud the government - could result in a prison term.

You boys disgust me. Your disregard for the truth, your willingness to lie, and clumsy attempts to get out from underneath the facts when they do not support your narrow minded views is appalling.
 
Quote from Pig Porky:


okwon,

Right on, man! Tampa, sorry, but you are god damn pathetic! :-/

Bush's next mission should be to overthrow the IRS regime!

PP

Not likely - his friends "do" oil, not tax work - there's not enough money in it for any of them.
 
Quote from tampa:

I'm stumped - are you boys simply ignorant, or do you enjoy fabricating things?

No one, I repeat, no one has ever faced a long or a short prison term for making a small mistake while filing their income taxes.

Only those convicted of fraud - the willful attempt, with malice and forethought, to defraud the government - could result in a prison term.

You boys disgust me. Your disregard for the truth, your willingness to lie, and clumsy attempts to get out from underneath the facts when they do not support your narrow minded views is appalling.

It's very possible that a mistake on your taxes can be viewed as a willful attempt to defraud the government. Try talking to an attorney that represents people getting audited. Fabricating? Why is it so hard for you to accept that stuff like this happens? It happened. Sorry to let you down. I think you're the ignorant one. You assume that what you know is all there is. Sorry, but that's not the case.

What narrow minded view? I wasn't one of the people arguing for lower taxes.

Believe whatever you want I don't really care anymore.
 
Quote from Madison:


The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Regarding federal income tax, a person shouldn't just read this statement above. They should decode it first from legalese, to english.

In legalese... "source", has a certain meaning. Learn that meaning, and you will be liberated.

:)

The above is not tax advice.
 
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