What state? What part of the Constitution do you think is applicable?Quote from FRuiTY PeBBLe:
I have an overdue excise tax bill for my car that is supposed to be paid to my town. And yes, I'll be charged more interest the longer I don't pay it. I haven't paid it yet because it fucking pisses me off.
WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN MY FRIENDS?! My bill is like $200 and my friends' are all like $35. I'm not even fucking rich. I probably have about the same net worth as them, but I just happen to have a newer car. HOW DOES THAT JUSTIFY ME PAYING MORE THAN THEM!? WE ALL DRIVE ON THE SAME DAMN ROADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it costs $1,000,000 a year to maintain the roads, they should divide that number by the number of car drivers and THAT IS WHAT I WILL AGREE TO PAY. ANYTHING ELSE, AND THEY CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES. That's what I'm going to write on my check. "WILLING TO PAY COST TO MAINTAIN ROADS DIVIDED BY # OF CAR DRIVERS IN MY TOWN. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, COME FUCKING ARREST ME"
Is this even constitutionally legal?! How can I fight this?! I know it's probably a lost cause, but I don't want to give in.
YOU ALL SHOULDN'T FILE FUCKING INCOME TAX RETURNS EITHER, BECAUSE THE TAX CODE IS A GOD DAMN JOKE!!!! WRITE ON YOUR TAX FORMS "WILL FILL OUT WHEN YOU MAKE IT COMPREHENSIBLE."
WE NEED TO STOP GIVING IN AND REVOLT. I want to know if it is constitutionally legal for my town to charge me more than my friend to drive on the same roads when I don't have any more money than he does. I have no problem paying my share, but my share needs to be based on something constitutionally fair.
IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!! I am driving on the SAME ROADS as my friend, but I'm paying 6x more than he is!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME FUCKING ARREST ME!!!!!!! AND GO AHEAD AND CHARGE ME A FUCKING PENALTY, TOO!!!!!!!!!!!
I should run for some type of office. Who the hell is not going to agree with me?!?!?!
F. P.
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tax rates and the constitution
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Interesting how it's always the "politicians" - who pray tell do you think the politicians are? They are people. They are your friends and neighbors. The only difference between you and the politicians you hate, is that they got off their asses and got elected. They were elected not by green humanoids from Pluto, but by the people.
The same goes for the filthy Democrats you so despise - they are people elected by the people to be and do Democratic things. They are doing the will and work of the people.
Maybe not your will, but the will of the majority of voters who sent them to govern.
Fruity, I read your wish list for what government should do. I failed to see any requirement for agencies such as the SEC. Was that an oversight? I am sure that you don't mind government protection in the markets to keep unscrupulous brokers/traders/corporations from fleecing you. But that's a horse of a different color, isn't it? A government service you directly benefit from.
You didn't mention where you live, but my guess is that there is a lot of government spending in your town or state - spending that provides jobs - jobs that support local business - spending that eventually benefits you, such as propping up the housing market, or providing employment for your wife or kid.
You say that you want a flat tax - why? Because you think that it will lower your tax bill, that's why. But I'll bet you don't really know what your real tax rate is. Do you know what a family of four with a $50,000 annual income pays in Federal Income tax? Less than 8% using standard deductions. George Bush paid 31% on income well over $800,000. He'd love to pay 15% - but that average family probably wouldn't be to thrilled to have their tax bill double.
You see Fruity, the Constitution isn't the only thing you don't know a lot about.
The same goes for the filthy Democrats you so despise - they are people elected by the people to be and do Democratic things. They are doing the will and work of the people.
Maybe not your will, but the will of the majority of voters who sent them to govern.
Fruity, I read your wish list for what government should do. I failed to see any requirement for agencies such as the SEC. Was that an oversight? I am sure that you don't mind government protection in the markets to keep unscrupulous brokers/traders/corporations from fleecing you. But that's a horse of a different color, isn't it? A government service you directly benefit from.
You didn't mention where you live, but my guess is that there is a lot of government spending in your town or state - spending that provides jobs - jobs that support local business - spending that eventually benefits you, such as propping up the housing market, or providing employment for your wife or kid.
You say that you want a flat tax - why? Because you think that it will lower your tax bill, that's why. But I'll bet you don't really know what your real tax rate is. Do you know what a family of four with a $50,000 annual income pays in Federal Income tax? Less than 8% using standard deductions. George Bush paid 31% on income well over $800,000. He'd love to pay 15% - but that average family probably wouldn't be to thrilled to have their tax bill double.
You see Fruity, the Constitution isn't the only thing you don't know a lot about.
Fact: The majority of the Fed income tax revenue is paid by the top tiers of income earners, not the huge middle class, i.e. a minority of the tax paying public pays in most of the tax revenue in this country.Quote from tampa:
Interesting how it's always the "politicians" - who pray tell do you think the politicians are? They are people. They are your friends and neighbors. The only difference between you and the politicians you hate, is that they got off their asses and got elected. They were elected not by green humanoids from Pluto, but by the people.
The same goes for the filthy Democrats you so despise - they are people elected by the people to be and do Democratic things. They are doing the will and work of the people.
Maybe not your will, but the will of the majority of voters who sent them to govern.
Fruity, I read your wish list for what government should do. I failed to see any requirement for agencies such as the SEC. Was that an oversight? I am sure that you don't mind government protection in the markets to keep unscrupulous brokers/traders/corporations from fleecing you. But that's a horse of a different color, isn't it? A government service you directly benefit from.
You didn't mention where you live, but my guess is that there is a lot of government spending in your town or state - spending that provides jobs - jobs that support local business - spending that eventually benefits you, such as propping up the housing market, or providing employment for your wife or kid.
You say that you want a flat tax - why? Because you think that it will lower your tax bill, that's why. But I'll bet you don't really know what your real tax rate is. Do you know what a family of four with a $50,000 annual income pays in Federal Income tax? Less than 8% using standard deductions. George Bush paid 31% on income well over $800,000. He'd love to pay 15% - but that average family probably wouldn't be to thrilled to have their tax bill double.
You see Fruity, the Constitution isn't the only thing you don't know a lot about.
Please. Don't treat me like I was born yesterday. Just because our government does some things that are good does not mean we shouldn't fix the problems. Take your head out of the sand.Quote from tampa:
You see Fruity, the Constitution isn't the only thing you don't know a lot about.
F. P.
I want a flat tax and it turns out I would probably pay less with it. But that is not the point. Equality is the point. Charging higher rates for making more is penalizing success. What is wrong with everyone paying the same percentage of their wages in taxes with NO deductions?
NOTHING!Quote from Discipline:
I want a flat tax and it turns out I would probably pay less with it. But that is not the point. Equality is the point. Charging higher rates for making more is penalizing success. What is wrong with everyone paying the same percentage of their wages in taxes with NO deductions?
Yes. And while they're fixing the tax system, fix these fucking PDT rules, too. Giving me restrictions (that other people don't have) because my account is under $25k doesn't seem like equality to me. How the fuck did that shit get enacted.....Quote from Discipline:
Equality is the point.
F. P.
Quote from FRuiTY PeBBLe:
Yes. And while they're fixing the tax system, fix these fucking PDT rules, too. Giving me restrictions (that other people don't have) because my account is under $25k doesn't seem like equality to me. How the fuck did that shit get enacted.....
F. P.
Must of been the filthy Democrats who don't want you messin' 'round in the market place. You know how they're always doing stuff to help the fags and darkies - they wanted to cut the daytrading margins in half for the welfare crowd, so they put in the PDT rule to cover the whole thing up, and screw with fine conservative fellows like you.