Tax on Trades Should Be Part of Rescue Plan, Some Democrats Say

Quote from palenimbus:

Are you kidding, it's about time people started raising hell, the country is going to hell in a handbasket, fuck professionalism

Agree 100%.

The Government wants us to take everything sitting down.

Be "reasonable", they say.

My answer to that: Fuck You.

Enough is enough.

Douche Bags.
 
Quote from Arnie:

So, what's the dollar amount on ES? The margin or the total contract value? :confused:

ES contract value @ 1200 = $60,000

0.25% of 60k = $150

Fuck that.
 
Quote from Dustin:

This would indeed put us all out of business. Would cost me 10-15k per day and I'm not even a high volume trader.

Liquidity would be GONE.

Worst idea in the history of ideas.

Exactly. Liquidty would be GONE!
 
Here is probably the main point you want to make when writing these FUCKING IDIOTS

- Enacting an enourmously burdensome transaction tax will drive liquidity completely away from these markets. The current bank bail-out proposal is being discussed for the sole reason of no liquidity for the "toxic" paper.

By enacting this tax, the markets will face an even larger liquidity crisis, that will spread to the commodity markets and the bond markets, making Treasury products impossible to even price; same with commodities.

The efects will be almost immideate. Producers (such as farmers, miners, etc) will not be able to price out their products because of the lack of liquidity. We will be in store for an even newer bail-out for the same exact reason: ILLIQUIDITY.
 
If you're going to write them you need to pretend you live in the member's state/district, even if sending a fax etc. Otherwise it just goes in the trash.
 
IF this ever got passed (big IF because I doubt it will), my guess would be that exchange members, which are the major liquidity providers, would probably get an exemption... which would mean that you could get around it by buying or leasing an exchange membership. That would definitely increase your monthly costs if you rented, or force you to make a substantial investment to your career if you decided to purchase a membership... but it would clearly be cheaper than the alternative. However, that may be what they want since that would have the desired effect of talks some of them have been rambling on about recently, which is the repeal of the 60/40 preferential tax treatment on futures transactions, since exchange members (except for ECM's) get their profits taxed as ordinary income.

Its quite scary to even think about... it almost makes me want to buy a GEM membership as a hedge while they're still relatively affordable.

Of course this is all just conjecture on my part.
 
Quote from Daal:

16 lunatics. there is no way this passes and no way the president signs it. dow 9000 if he did

what about the next president? it doesn't make a difference as they are both economic ignoramuses
 
Quote from Jachyra:

However, that may be what they want since that would have the desired effect of talks some of them have been rambling on about recently, which is the repeal of the 60/40 preferential tax treatment on futures transactions, since exchange members (except for ECM's) get their profits taxed as ordinary income.

Are you saying exchange members' profits already get taxed as ordinary income, or they would be taxed this way if the 60/40 treatment was eliminated?

If the latter, wouldn't that apply to all traders, exchange members or not?
 
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