Target and its Transgendered Bathroom boycotted by 100s of thousands

[piezoe]

How many years was it going on before anyone ever made it an issue? Did they wait until an election year?

This entire business represents to me the mind deadening effect of pernicious religion on, fortunately, a minority. They are largely, if politically involved, associated with the Republican political party, but they are vocal enough to damage the party in a serious way. The best thing the party could do right now if they want to broaden their support, is to cut these people loose and say to them, "We don't support your crackpot ideas in any way, please leave."

On Bloomberg today there is a story about Charles Koch, the famously right-wing Republican, in which he is quoted as saying, "Billionaire political donor Charles Koch said Democrat Hillary Clinton may make a better president than any of the Republicans vying for the job and derided the rhetoric of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz."

I am no Hillary supporter, I'm for Bernie. But my opinion of Koch just increased tremendously, because it shows me he thinks for himself. I'll defend the right of what are complete screwballs to me to say what they want, but it's sad to see what's happening to the GOP.

 

[piezoe]

There aren't many transgendered. Most m-->f types probably do a convincing enough job of looking like a woman to avoid funny looks. They have to piss and shit like everyone else. If they go into a men's room the men feel uncomfortable. They may get beaten up. In the ladies room, they go into a stall by themselves and usually no one is the wiser.

If one of the other women suspects when they are primping in front of the mirror, not much harm done. They leave and forget. Most people have felt uncomfortable in public bathrooms at one time or another, whether it is in some urban transit or highway rest area bathroom where you feel like you are taking your life in your hands, perverted behavior, or bad messes or smells.

If they molest someone, there are already laws against that.

Again, you are making perfect sense.

 

[gwb-trading]

For those who are interested in reading what is actually included in HB2 in North Carolina, the News & Observer had a very good article in today's paper giving an overview. The article states that the legislature is not likely to change much in the bill despite the uproar and business boycott of our state.

Note only the first two pages of the bill deal with bathrooms. The rest of the bill deals with many other non-bathroom rules outlined in the article (removing rights of local governments, not allowing minimum wage increases, not allowing discrimination cases in state courts, etc.)

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article73397047.html

 

[wildchild]

For those who are interested in reading what is actually included in HB2 in North Carolina, the News & Observer had a very good article in today's paper giving an overview. The article states that the legislature is not likely to change much in the bill despite the uproar and business boycott of our state.

Note only the first two pages of the bill deal with bathrooms. The rest of the bill deals with many other non-bathroom rules outlined in the article (removing rights of local governments, not allowing minimum wage increases, not allowing discrimination cases in state courts, etc.)

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article73397047.html

Are you expecting the left to actually read the bill and understand what is in it? The left would rather make up stuff and get upset because of how it makes them feel.

 

[wildchild]

There aren't many transgendered. Most m-->f types probably do a convincing enough job of looking like a woman to avoid funny looks. They have to piss and shit like everyone else. If they go into a men's room the men feel uncomfortable. They may get beaten up. In the ladies room, they go into a stall by themselves and usually no one is the wiser.

If one of the other women suspects when they are primping in front of the mirror, not much harm done. They leave and forget. Most people have felt uncomfortable in public bathrooms at one time or another, whether it is in some urban transit or highway rest area bathroom where you feel like you are taking your life in your hands, perverted behavior, or bad messes or smells.

If they molest someone, there are already laws against that.

Thats great but that is not what the left is arguing. They are arguing that anyone can go to any bathroom based strickly on how they feel that day.

 

[ipatent]

Thats great but that is not what the left is arguing. They are arguing that anyone can go to any bathroom based strickly on how they feel that day.

How many people really want controversy when they're going to the bathroom?

 

[Snarkhund]

Do you want your 9-year old daughter trying to pee in the next stall when I'm dropping a huge foul man-shit with massive attendant gas expulsion from the fracking session the night before at Tony Romas where I drank 19 beers and ate 72 ribs?

There is a reason men and women have separate facilities and it ain't about sex. Women will gasp and run for their lives. I predict it.

 

[ETcallhome]

This entire business represents to me the mind deadening effect of pernicious religion on, fortunately, a minority. They are largely, if politically involved, associated with the Republican political party, but they are vocal enough to damage the party in a serious way. The best thing the party could do right now if they want to broaden their support, is to cut these people loose and say to them, "We don't support your crackpot ideas in any way, please leave."

On Bloomberg today there is a story about Charles Koch, the famously right-wing Republican, in which he is quoted as saying, "Billionaire political donor Charles Koch said Democrat Hillary Clinton may make a better president than any of the Republicans vying for the job and derided the rhetoric of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz."

I am no Hillary supporter, I'm for Bernie. But my opinion of Koch just increased tremendously, because it shows me he thinks for himself. I'll defend the right of what are complete screwballs to me to say what they want, but it's sad to see what's happening to the GOP.

20% that vote republican are cultural conservatives. Without them the republicans are way outnumbered and can't win. The msnbc interview with the older Koch brother was quite interesting. His main goal is to reduce or eliminate crony capitalism and restore competition. He said for all they spent they got nothing and there is no candidate on the republican side for President that he would support.

 

[achilles28]

The fact we're obsessed with trannys in bathrooms shows how brainwashed most people are by mainstream media. If CNN didn't rail on this 24/7, nobody would give a damn.

 

[gwb-trading]

Are you expecting the left to actually read the bill and understand what is in it? The left would rather make up stuff and get upset because of how it makes them feel.

The real issue with this bill is that it rolls back civil rights protections in our state by100 years, eliminates the power of local government to put in place ordinances, and forces all discrimination suits into federal court (increasing the cost on business - a real boneheaded moved by the state legislature who failed to think obviously).

Sadly all the media attention is focused on only the first two pages of the bill dealing with bathrooms while ignoring all the other pages which are a complete disaster for the businesses and people of our state.

This bill was passed in a 12 hour long special session a month back. Many of the legislators admit they did not read the entire bill but thought it was strictly about bathrooms. Sadly the bill's authors (rural counter conservative legislators) put every conservative pipe-dream into the bill in an attempt to live out their rural county fantasies to roll-back the historical clock and stick it to the city people. Unfortunately it back-fired on them on a national basis and they seem to have difficulty undoing their actions.