Talking about a "Sucker's Rally"

I tend to agree with you SA but in the short-term the market is screaming buy. I have a very simple trading methodology. "Listen to the market and follow along." I could be way, way, WAY off base by being bullish but here's the rub....I'll still make money. I feel pretty bullish at the moment and I'm holding overnight. If I wake up to hear growling I'll just switch gears. Requirement number 1 for a trader....develop a bias and a game plan to trade that bias. If the game plan ain't working toss it out the window and trade what happens. What could be easier?

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ProfitTakqFool: I think the SPX is going to fly by 1000 and the talking heads will be screaming bottom for a while. Just listen to the charts. The market doesn't care about our opinions. The charts say WAY UP!


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November 13, 2008

SouthAmerica: The reality of the global economy is saying Way Down!

I don’t care what your charts are saying to you.

We are having an economic meltdown right now – and that’s the reality.

The best use for your charts right now – burn them down and use common sense instead.

Or look at what happened to the charts during the Great Depression of the 1930’s – that might give you some better information regarding the direction of the stock market.

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It's already happening. Have you listened to the Mastercard commercials lately? They have thrown a key word in there, "for everything else there is <b>debit</b> mastercard." People's wallets are shut tight with a vice but in the short-term, the market really doesn't care. If it wants to fly it will fly.

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If consumers start hoarding money instead of maxing out credit cards then you have the recipie for a very long, Japan type bear market. I will concede that point. But that simply won't happen.
 
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November 13, 2008

SouthAmerica: Reply to ProfitTakgFool

I gave some thought for me to come out with an analogy regarding your charts to try to explain to you the chances that you are taking when you use this historic information right now.

Let’s say that you are a ship that goes around the oceans using the usual charts and they have been doing that for a long time and usually there are no problems.

But now there is a global war and there are minefields all over the place – the old charts will take you around the globe as before, as long as you don’t hit a minefield and get blown up into pieces.

The global war in this case is the global financial crisis – the minefields are all over the place and can be just ahead of you at any time. In this environment when you least expect there is a new minefield that blows somebody into pieces just ahead of you.

The best solution is to stay out of the water until it is safe again to resume your travels.

Remember it is time of war and using the old charts might not be as safe as you think since the ocean is full of floating mines.

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That's why you never go sailing without a life jacket :D

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November 13, 2008

SouthAmerica: Reply to ProfitTakgFool

I gave some thought for me to come out with an analogy regarding your charts to try to explain to you the chances that you are taking when you use this historic information right now.

Let’s say that you are a ship that goes around the oceans using the usual charts and they have been doing that for a long time and usually there are no problems.

But now there is a global war and there are minefields all over the place – the old charts will take you around the globe as before, as long as you don’t hit a minefield and get blown up into pieces.

The global war in this case is the global financial crisis – the minefields are all over the place and can be just ahead of you at any time. In this environment when you least expect there is a new minefield that blows somebody into pieces just ahead of you.

The best solution is to stay out of the water until it is safe again to resume your travels.

Remember it is time of war and using the old charts might not be as safe as you think since the ocean is full of floating mines.

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what i didn't like was the daily chart pattern....not an outright bullish day or bearish day.

more important, will be follow-thru. one day does not make a trend reversal.

seems to me we just hit bottom and rallied from there, and overdid it
 
Techincals are USELESS without accompanying fundamentals. There is NOTHING in the news today that warrants this rally. NOTHING, so the rationale is "we tested the lows successfully."
Whoever didn't sell at close deserve to lose all of their money because they're too stupid to think.

It'll start going down tomorrow.
 
Quote from oktiri:

Techincals are USELESS without accompanying fundamentals. There is NOTHING in the news today that warrants this rally. NOTHING, so the rationale is "we tested the lows successfully."
Whoever didn't sell at close deserve to lose all of their money because they're too stupid to think.

It'll start going down tomorrow.


The fundamentals are telling us that the stocks are dirt cheap now.
 
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