Taliban in Kabul as President Flees

TreeFrogTrader said:
Trump definitely wanted them out earlier before the spring summer fighting season began but he was not there to do it obviously. Every military intelligence person - whether under Trump or Biden- knows that the withdrawal needed to take place in the winter while most Taliban were either in Pakistan or by winter conditions. No President would withdraw in the summer unless he was a complete idiot. Oh wait.

In addition, no president or military person with half a brain cell would withdraw troops and give away the military bases to the enemy before withdrawing American personnel and civilian allies. No one, except a complete fucking idiot.
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Trump had a conditional plan that required the Taliban to allow pullout. That plan was delayed several times when the Taliban attacked something. Trump would stop withdrawing, kick their asses a little then resume talks and each time more withdrawal took place. The military was to leave last after all contractors and civilians had left. It simply would not have looked like this.

Trump knew how to run things. Joe Biden can't wipe his own ass.
 
UsualName said:
It’s ok to not hope for dead Americans. There’s lots and lots of accounts of Americans and Afghans being allowed to move freely to the airbase for evac now. As I said, we need a few weeks of this.
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It is also definitely okay to take steps to make sure there are not dead americans and civilian allies. Not Biden's strong point.

We will check back later to see if people are getting stopped and threatened in ways that diminish the number making it to actually apply to leave.

Okay Cowboy? We will check back.

Right now the afghan civilians are in the worst Catch-22 possible. They must travel to Kabul and from there to the airport or wherever the American interviewers are. And they must bring identification and proof of working with Americans and the like with them to support their appeal. Meanwhile, many Afghans are destroying their ID's because they dont want to be identified when the the Taliban come to get them. So asswipe Biden has created a need for thousands of civilians to cross through Taliban checkpoints with full sets of whatever they have for ID and supporting documents.

What a fucking nightmare scenario. Heck of job, Brownie.
 
Snarkhund said:
Trump had a conditional plan that required the Taliban to allow pullout. That plan was delayed several times when the Taliban attacked something. Trump would stop withdrawing, kick their asses a little then resume talks and each time more withdrawal took place. The military was to leave last after all contractors and civilians had left. It simply would not have looked like this.

Trump knew how to run things. Joe Biden can't wipe his own ass.
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Trump's people also firmly insist that he absolutely insisted that NO equipment be left behind. DUH.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Trump's people also firmly insist that he absolutely insisted that NO equipment be left behind. DUH.
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Trump knew that you could not expect the Taliban to honor an agreement anymore than you could expect wild animals to honor an agreement. Is was a withdrawal-in-force until Biden took over.

Biden is having an ice cream party at Camp Dementia.
 
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Trump , sure knows how to do things .....like how he left the Taliban no less than 17,000 pieces of expensive military hardware.

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Why the US Afghanistan withdrawal was so quick and why they left so ...
https://www.abc.net.au › news › us-military-leave-bagram...

Did we leave military equipment in Afghanistan?
The US Central Command said it had left no less than 17,074 pieces of equipment in Afghanistan. ... Some equipment, including helicopters, military vehicles, weapons and ammunition, is to be handed over to the Afghan military.
 
good, good, fair and balanced coverage is what we like to see:

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UsualName said:
Lol. Easy to say when Trump and his people pulled every shred of evidence saying otherwise from their websites.
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It is neither here nor there in regard to the events of the last few days.

Totally on Biden. If, for the sake of argument, I were to accept everything you said, which I dont, it does not give any cover to Biden's blunder which is your goal. All the reasons why the exit has turned into a horror show are simple things that either should or should not have been done and the idiot who did or did not do them is Joe Biden.

Heck of a job, Brownie.
 
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