Taliban in Kabul as President Flees

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WeToddDid2 said:
The libtards have completely pussified the Pentagon.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/08/16/our-military-is-a-woke-joke-n2594151

Our Military Is A Woke Joke
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Meanwhile:

August 16, 2021 Topic: Hypersonic Missile Blog Brand: The Reboot Tags: RussiaMissilesMilitary Russian Military Tsirkon
On a Scale of One to Very, How Dangerous Is Russia’s Hypersonic Tsirkon Missile?


Russia’s hypersonic Tsirkon missile has undergone yet another round of testing, bringing the weapon a step closer to combat readiness.

Russia’s Ministry of Defence announced on Monday that its Navy had performed a test launch of the Tsirkon test launch from the White Sea at a notional surface target on the coast of the Barents Sea. “According to live monitoring data, the Tsirkon missile successfully hit a target directly at a range of over 350 km. During the test, the tactical and technical characteristics were confirmed. The flight speed reached nearly 7 Mach,” the defense ministry said in a statement. Additionally, the Ministry of Defence published a brief video clip from the exercise on its Youtube channel. The footage showed the Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate Admiral Flota Sovetskogo Soyuza Gorshkov, clearly demarcated by its pennant number 454, moving into firing position. The video then showed the Tsirkon missile being launched and flying at an upwards trajectory from several different angles.

Tsirkon, also known as “Zircon,” was launched at least four other times from Admiral Gorshkov since January 2020, hitting both ground and sea targets at distances ranging from 350–500 kilometers. Tsirkon is a winged, hypersonic anti-ship missile that is reportedly capable of reaching speeds of up to Mach 9 and performing mid-flight maneuvers. Tsirkon’s operational range remains unclear, with estimates ranging from 1,000–2,000 kilometers depending on the circumstances of the engagement. A defense insider recently told TASS news that Tsirkon boasts a range of roughly 1,500 kilometers for ground targets and “slightly less” than that for hitting naval targets. Tsirkon appears to have the potential to hold U.S. Navy Carrier Strike Groups at risk and to significantly impede these formations from operating effectively.
 
gwb-trading said:
Taking an objective look at the Afghanistan situation...

It is overdue that the U.S. withdraws from Afghanistan. Trump and Biden both were walking down this path. Having a withdrawal is not the problem.

The problem is the complete collapse in Afghanistan which has caused a completely chaotic withdrawal. This has not only impacted the U.S. but all of our allies -- all of whom are also now desperately trying to get their embassy staff and citizens out of the country. There is also the sad reality of all the Afghan staff who supported the U.S. who need to get out of the country -- many are likely to be left in the country as the airlift cannot support including many of them. A good number of these Afghans have been promised Visas.

Biden needs to step up and take responsibility for this complete withdrawal fiasco. He is President and it is on him. We will see what he says at 3:45pm EDT.

At this point is really to late to change anything except to buffer up the defenses around the airport to allow move flights to get in & out.

One lesson out of this (and Iraq) as well is that we need to get out of the business of "nation building". If we need to go to war with a country we need to go in, wreck the place, capture the leaders, leave, and allow the inhabitants to re-build (with the clear warning we will do the same thing again if they attack the U.S. or our allies).. We should not be pouring money and lives into occupying these countries -- who are not interested in western forms of democratic government.

Shortly we may face the same situation with Iran. If we take military action with Iran -- we should not be attempting to occupy the country. Merely destroy their military, capture the leaders, eliminate their electric grid, nuclear facilities, etc. Don't stay around and attempt to occupy the place.

The concept of "your wrecked it, you own it" no longer applies. Those days are over. The new motto needs to be "Attack us, enjoy fixing the mess. It's on you".
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This a very sober and reasonable analysis.
 
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