Taking 103K to 1.2million by Year End 2008

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Remember last year when you were at this point and then lost all of the gains in just a few weeks. Why not take at least 25% off the table at this point so you can lock in the gains? Personally, I would take off the table what I put into it and then gamble with the house's money.

I know that strategy sounds so Crameresque, however, seeing your history from last year why not play it safe this time around?


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Weekly Update for week 39 ended 10/11/2008

Yet another solid week, up 57K (26%). Most of that taking place on Friday.

What a week it was! Almost impossible now to trade individual stocks on their own merit without reference to the entire market. Not surprising the bigger gains/losses this week was from SPY trades.

The week began bad on Monday when I tried to call a bottom on the market, buying SPY shares, averaging down for a total of 4000 shares. Lost 13K. Spent the rest of the week before Friday getting myself back, with FSLR long on Mon, CME put on Tue, and FSLR short on Tue among others. Big regrets have been not holding to my shorts longer, always thinking things were oversold.

Then came friday. Bought 100 SPY calls for 24K when the market tanked at the open. Got out 30 minutes later for a gain of 20K. Much smaller size than I could have. I guess I was scared by the size of the moves. Made some other nice trades. Lost later in the day shorting GS and buying SPY puts shortly after 2.30, thinking maybe another EOD sell-off is on the way: lost a total of 18K. Turned round and loaded up on SPY calls (200 contracts, a bit overleveraged - blame it on revenge) as the rally was underway. Closed that for a gain of 23K.

Took out 5K from my account.

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Opening Balance:               	    	215,822
Net gain for the week 		         56,653  
Cash Withdrawal				 -5,000
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Net Balance:                   		267,475
Number of Trades	            	 22
Number of Profitable Trades    	    	 15

Since Inception of Thread   01/13/2008 - 10/11/2008

Opening Balance:                   	102,615
Net gain (Less Margin Interest)		179,860
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Balance Before Withdrawal:            	282,475  (Up 175%)
Cash Withdrawal				-15,000
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Net Balance				267,475

Number of Trades	           	924
Number of Profitable Trades        	543


Top/Bottom Discretionary Trades for the week

TICKER	ENTRY DATE/TIME		EXIT DATE/TIME		QTY	PURCHASE AMT	SOLD AMT	GAIN/LOSS	TYPE


SWGJL	2008-10-10-15-13-20	2008-10-10-15-34-17	20000	96000		120000		23679		SPY CALL
SWGJL	2008-10-10-09-37-31	2008-10-10-09-59-12	10000	24000		44500		20330		SPY CALL
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SZCVH	2008-10-10-14-34-45	2008-10-10-15-12-00	10000	61880		50540		-11520		SPY PUT
SPY	2008-10-06-09-16-38	2008-10-06-15-15-49	4000	429680		416558		-13165		LONG

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Quote from Port1385:

Remember last year when you were at this point and then lost all of the gains in just a few weeks. Why not take at least 25% off the table at this point so you can lock in the gains? Personally, I would take off the table what I put into it and then gamble with the house's money.

I know that strategy sounds so Crameresque, however, seeing your history from last year why not play it safe this time around?

To this and previous posters: Do you understand what he is trying to achieve?

Whether you feel it is reckless or dumb trading or whatever, it seems to be his style. Just let the guy trade the way he chooses, not what you would do. Why is his way wrong and your way right?

He would never reach a million if he was to take out to much profits or all his principal.

BIG profits REQUIRE, BIG risks.

Sorry neke, I know you can defend yourself and you probably don't need to but when folks start telling a guy how to trade and how he should limit risk it really grates on my nerves.

Folks, lets let every other trader trade as they will - some are fodder and some are not.

Chris

P.S. I do enjoy watching your progress, keep on swinging - remember Babe Ruth, the strike out king??
 
Im not saying he is wrong or bringing discredit down upon him.

All I am doing is making a simple constructive suggestion and I hope it is taken into consideration. Im not saying what is right or wrong, but just suggesting a way to play it safe and to protect the gains that have been achieved.

In this case, my suggestion would be to take at least 50k off the table and place it into 3-6 month CD. Lock the money down for 3-6 months.

Locking down the gains for 3-6 months would not harm his goal and protect him from the distinct possibility of him going to zero.

In fact, it would further his goals as he would have a second chance should the worse come.
Quote from DblArrow:

To this and previous posters: Do you understand what he is trying to achieve?

Whether you feel it is reckless or dumb trading or whatever, it seems to be his style. Just let the guy trade the way he chooses, not what you would do. Why is his way wrong and your way right?

He would never reach a million if he was to take out to much profits or all his principal.

BIG profits REQUIRE, BIG risks.

Sorry neke, I know you can defend yourself and you probably don't need to but when folks start telling a guy how to trade and how he should limit risk it really grates on my nerves.

Folks, lets let every other trader trade as they will - some are fodder and some are not.

Chris

P.S. I do enjoy watching your progress, keep on swinging - remember Babe Ruth, the strike out king??
 
Quote from DblArrow:

To this and previous posters: Do you understand what he is trying to achieve?

Whether you feel it is reckless or dumb trading or whatever, it seems to be his style. Just let the guy trade the way he chooses, not what you would do. Why is his way wrong and your way right?

He would never reach a million if he was to take out to much profits or all his principal.

BIG profits REQUIRE, BIG risks.

Sorry neke, I know you can defend yourself and you probably don't need to but when folks start telling a guy how to trade and how he should limit risk it really grates on my nerves.




Folks, lets let every other trader trade as they will - some are fodder and some are not.

Chris

P.S. I do enjoy watching your progress, keep on swinging - remember Babe Ruth, the strike out king??

" BIG profits REQUIRE, BIG risks."

So can we take it that you're a student of the Nick Leeson approach to trading!
 
Quote from Port1385:

Remember last year when you were at this point and then lost all of the gains in just a few weeks. Why not take at least 25% off the table at this point so you can lock in the gains? Personally, I would take off the table what I put into it and then gamble with the house's money.

I know that strategy sounds so Crameresque, however, seeing your history from last year why not play it safe this time around?
let Neke reach his goal. No need to take out a puny 50k and buy a cd paying jack. what is a few hundred in interest to a person who nets over 100k per year trading.
 
Quote from Johno:

" BIG profits REQUIRE, BIG risks."

So can we take it that you're a student of the Nick Leeson approach to trading!

No. Big profits NOW require big risks.
 
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