Takers versus the Makers.

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:


The democrats main objection to Bush was he didn't spend enough. Even his tax cuts got bipartisan support.

So these claims about "failed policies" are laughable. Of course, the media laps it up uncritically.

So you would like to go back to the Bush era. But only if the Dems
were not around.

It appears that your vision for the future of America is.....drum roll..... an unchecked George W. Bush & Co.

Thank you for clarifying your position.
 
Quote from mrbill:



I analyzed the entire U.S balance sheet, no easy task. We do owe too damn much, but we are still way solvent overall. For example, if your credit card debt was $17,000, but you owned your own home worth $200k, and land worth $100k, you have net capital overall. You still should NOT owe that debt, AND should CUT SPending overall, buy you are not under water. Check the Gov balance sheets. Just a different perspective, hopefully devoid of partisan nonsense.


we arent working with 17k cash against 200k assets, we borrowed the 17k cash, in order to pay billwe cant afford, and we already have 200k in debt, we are just waiting for the creditor to call the loan, at which point we are out of business. Your analogy is bush league.
 
Quote from mrbill:

One thing that concerns me, and we've seen it spoken in the media, that trying to divide the Country for the purpose of ideology, is counter productive. We, they, you, me, are not, or should not be enemies. We can disagree on policies, but when we let the political elite, the money changers, and the rest, divide us into opposing teams, then nobody wins IMO.

I analyzed the entire U.S balance sheet, no easy task. We do owe too damn much, but we are still way solvent overall. For example, if your credit card debt was $17,000, but you owned your own home worth $200k, and land worth $100k, you have net capital overall. You still should NOT owe that debt, AND should CUT SPending overall, buy you are not under water. Check the Gov balance sheets. Just a different perspective, hopefully devoid of partisan nonsense.

Note: more than willing to discuss or debate, but please don't stoop the level of some on here. We're all on the same team as Americans IMO.

We are most certainly not on the same team. One side wants to pull apart everything that was so hard won over the last few centuries and replace it with a socialist utopia. The other side wants to keep things based on the charter (constitution) that was originally established. These sides are not working towards the same goal, ergo they are rivals.
 
Quote from L-Kabong:

An embarrassing epitaph.

Says you. And if someone like you who voted Obama thinks it is the wrong side, it must be the correct one - in the same way I would be if AK47 or RCG said I was on the wrong side. I am comfortable with that.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Says you. And if someone like you who voted Obama thinks it is the wrong side, it must be the correct one - in the same way I would be if AK47 or RCG said I was on the wrong side. I am comfortable with that.

Same here.
 
Quote from denner:

My God, you still missed the entire conclusion from the past election. It's astounding that you cannot figure it out. "Fiscal conservatism" has a better chance of alienating even more voters than this previous election.

2 years from now, 4 years from now, the social safety net will be even more stressed. more people on public assistance, etc...more retiring boomers drawing SS, more retiring boomers on Medicare (Medicaid).

The demographics are driving this entire shift. "Fiscal conservatism" will not turn the ship around. Period. Meanwhile, you are fixated on all of these "social issues", when it's a fight for whatever scraps the government will feed the masses.

The GOP nominated crappy candidates the past two elections who followed the neo-con, Fox-News-driven narrative. I could've gotten behind McCain, but then they added Palin to the ticket and that's where I drew the line. Get some rational, intelligent and relatable candidates on the big ticket and you'll see a change.
 
Quote from mrbill:

One thing that concerns me, and we've seen it spoken in the media, that trying to divide the Country for the purpose of ideology, is counter productive. We, they, you, me, are not, or should not be enemies. We can disagree on policies, but when we let the political elite, the money changers, and the rest, divide us into opposing teams, then nobody wins IMO.

I analyzed the entire U.S balance sheet, no easy task. We do owe too damn much, but we are still way solvent overall. For example, if your credit card debt was $17,000, but you owned your own home worth $200k, and land worth $100k, you have net capital overall. You still should NOT owe that debt, AND should CUT SPending overall, buy you are not under water. Check the Gov balance sheets. Just a different perspective, hopefully devoid of partisan nonsense.

Note: more than willing to discuss or debate, but please don't stoop the level of some on here. We're all on the same team as Americans IMO.

+1
 
Quote from deltastrike:

The GOP nominated crappy candidates the past two elections who followed the neo-con, Fox-News-driven narrative. I could've gotten behind McCain, but then they added Palin to the ticket and that's where I drew the line. Get some rational, intelligent and relatable candidates on the big ticket and you'll see a change.

you were worried about Palin, so you voted for Biden?!?!?!

LOL
 
Quote from Max E. Pad:

So you were worried about Palin, but you voted for Biden?!?!?!

I was worried about that whole mentality, still am. Biden is just a loud mouth, kind of apples and oranges in comparison to Palin.
 
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