lol... This forum is a HOWL! I love it. I had my ups and downs as a RE investor, hung on after losing my ass and doing well now, had some luck day trading, but i know it was total luck....I was looking to educate myself further in this area recently, because I dont trust any of those bullshit financial advisers, and want to manage my own money myself. While buying and managing rental properies, I took equity out in 2004 and started up a successful vending company that I still own an manage now, and just like anything, it takes years to build something up from scratch successfully. I belong to an elite forum of nationwide vendors, and then also on some of the "newbie" Vending forums. A few of my colleagues just torture these poor souls who come on there asking the same question asked 1,000 times before... Like "Which jukebox is the best?", or "How many machines do i need before i can quit my job and go full-time?" Or "Which kind of locations work best, or which kind of crane merchandiser machine?".... lol. This forum is no different, as you get the same noob questions you have all heard a thousand times too. Just like in my industry, the elite dont want to just give up the gold info, because they'd be potentially training their future competition, and could hurt them. I don't feel as paranoid as my friends, and if I genuinely like someone, from another state(lol), I am happy to leak out a few nuggets. I came here finding exactly what I expected. A very secretive fraternal group, no different from other industries. Which is expected, and I congratulate those who truly are successful here. Like other industry groups, there are several posers too i'm sure. My general advice to the OP, would be if you truly want to follow this path and succeed? Find out if there are any trade shows or big conventions for Day Trading/investing. Not the dumb guru convention seminars, I mean a trade show or convention. If there is, book your show ticket hotel and flight and venture off.. And, look to network with other people there at the bar, the lunch area, the show floor or there may be classes at the convention, and just try to mingle and network. Hell, take someone or a couple of guys out to lunch who you feel are successful (If you're wise enough, you should be able to tell the posers from the winners) network and try to learn from them, and aybe get in an apprenticeship under them. You meet people like that in RE as well. If they like you enough, you get into the inner circle of the successful people in the country. The format for getting into a lucrative industry and gaining strong knowledge may not be the exact same, but the steps are all very similar i'm sure. Ok, let me put my unbrella up now, because i'm sure some of the senior level guys/gals will toss molitov cocktail bombs at me!