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This week's been a little on the ugly side.

Not really surprised obama has been unable to spend more money lately to prop up his house of cards.
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Loss of $3,282 or .37%

Wow the angst is overwhelming, and here I thought this was going to be a week my detractors could gloat about.

Maybe next week will work out better.

Good Luck everybody.
 
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Well, you've proven yourself to be clueless. Those leveraged ETFs have no place in a long term portfolio. Do the math... I thought everyone in the world already knew this.

Done with this thread... I'm sorry to see you have closed yourself off and decided to not learn. I suspect you had some bad experiences trading, but you are still trading. All you're doing is trading ETFs infrequently. Don't kid yourself. You haven't found a good method. (on the other hand, I do think 95% of ET posters are pretenders so you're better than them... but that's not the standard to be judged by.)

And... whenever it happens... 6 months or 2years from now you take a big rip and realize your method isn't what you thought it was... remember you had a chance to learn here and passed it up.

Please do the math and try to understand the leveraged products you're using. In the long run, they are mathematically guaranteed to underperform so you are guaranteeing you will lose. You're bringing volatility and risk into your portfolio with being compensated in the form of return.

You've been really lucky but the past year has been about the best environment imaginable for what you have been doing. Kudos, but those of us who have been in the business for quite a bit longer than you realize the importance of having a ship that can weather all seas. You're not there yet so get off your pedestal and keep learning.

-Talon

PS BTW, the simple index add / drops method I posted far outperformed your returns over the same time period. Just so you know... and no i won't share my account statements with you. I realize the point of this thread is at least a little bit you were hoping to proven wrong... desperately looking for proof that someone can trade better than you did... I don't feel obligated to disclose details of my accounts to fulfill that purpose.

Good luck.
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^This.

Index Piker, that post is mathematical fact. Leveraged ETF's will decline over time, whenever the market starts to chop, just do out the math for yourself. There is a reason FAZ/FAS (for example) had a reverse split earlier this year. Talon, Jesus, and asiaprop have all made very good points IMO.

That being said I want to sincerely congratulate you on your trade. If you really cashed out your retirement annuity, to buy the market despite "the end of the world" talk that existed at that time, then you have steel balls dude. Nice trade, but it is a trade and not index investing.
 
Quote from Steelers Baby:

I make this challenge right now, slap nuts created a make belive statement saying he was up 90% last year, if he finds a way to prove it through time/sales, and actual trades i will match his amount and donate it to charity.......a charity of whoever proves' its' choice!!!


LETS TAKE THE INDEX PIKER CHALLENGE!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D
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Quote from Steelers Baby:

How is that fantasy IRA working out for ya??? must be nice working those magic beans for a living......
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Please post time stamps for all your trades, i am more than willing to do this, please show me all your glorious trades, since you kicked soros' ass......


PLEASE POST TRADES IN REAL TIME, WITH TIME STAMPS, YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THIS SINCE YOU ARE A MULTI MILLIONAIRE., IN YOUR OWN MIND ANYWAYS........
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I've emailed TimerTrac.com to see if we can come to an agreement on having a 3rd party verify and time stamp my trades. I would consider a 180 day delay.

However if they will not accept complete statement histories/ trade confirmations without a CPA attestation I probably will decline due to excessive expense.

I will still consider doing it on a forward going basis but it obviously will put my verified returns at a significant disadvantage.
 
A very good resource for asset allocation portfolio back testing 1972-2008 in excel format. You can compare up to 5 different portfolio asset allocations to a time.


Providing the following stats:
Average
Std. Dev.
Down SD
Up SD
CAGR
Sharpe
Sortino
US Mkt. Corr.
Intl. Corr.
Total - Rebalanced (N)
Total-Un-Rebalanced (N)
Total - Rebalanced (Real)


http://passive-investor.googlegroup...Y__GAQBRkI_C95zVGsnHe1DxPhGuxsWDLdLep2NLleRSE



It's very important to review the data sources tab for your chosen asset classes.
Some returns are simulated where data history is thin.

Total US Market - TSM
Large Cap Value - LCV
Large Cap Blend - LCB
Large Cap Growth - LCG
Mid-Cap Blend - MCB
Small Cap Value - SCV
Small Cap Blend - SCB
Small Cap Growth - SCG
Micro Cap
REIT
Intl Developed - EAFE
Emerging Mkt - EM
Total_Intl - EAFE85/EM15
Intl Pacific
Intl Europe
Intl.Value
Commodities
Long Term Govt Bond - LTGB
5 Yr T-Bills
Total Bond
Tbills/Treasury Money Mkt
Synthetic TIPS
Wellington - Balanced
Wellesley - Balanced
Windsor
2 Year ST Treasury
GOLD
 
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CAN YOU BEAT MY PORTFOLIO?

Are you one of the rare individuals on ET who really net more than you lose. If so ,can you beat a passive portfolio on a long term basis?
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heres my month of nov.
37% for one month
 

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heres my month of nov.
37% for one month
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Well okay you are off to a good start. I look forward to you posting your future results.

How long have you been trading this account and what was your start value?
 
Quote from Index piker:

Well okay you are off to a good start. I look forward to you posting your future results.

How long have you been trading this account and what was your start value?
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I trade multiple accounts oanda is weird with the new rules so I have to break up my capital and rebalance it alot.. ive been profitable about 5 years.. last year I did about 230% Ill post monthly updates if you want.. and I started with 200 bucks and i worked and traded and added a little each month eventually accrued more and more slowly then I split it up and I do long term stuff-mid term stuff and short term stuff.
 
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