TA question often asked... "Do trendlines work"?

Here's one from this morning. Clear "trendline support play". How long will it hold... how far will it run? Nobody knows. All you get to know is the start*. After that, you have to "play it by ear".

View attachment 328015

*Knowing the "start" or "possible/turn" is a HUGE edge. If you can't get off on that, you might as well go flip burgers. The market is NEVER going to offer-up more than this!!

Classic "Price TA"... KISS, baby!
Another great Thread. Keep up the great work please @Scataphagos

Buy Support, sell Resistance.
Look for Trendlines and Channels.
Trade with Stops
Chase Breakouts in very strong Trends that aren't likely to Pullback for awhile.

Etc etc.
 
On the flip side, if we just learn to read the price chart, I think that tells us everything we need to know. We don't need to understand why the price is moving, but just the fact that it is.

So you’d rather guess what’s going on with the stock price instead? I’ve not seen a “technical analyst” with a hit rate above 50%, which means they underperform random guesses. Why would you believe in a system that underperforms like that?

Anyway that’s fine. Personally, I’ve come realize that noise traders (non-informed) play a useful role by providing cheap liquidity.
 
Much respect and thanks for the work and effort you're contributed here @longandshort

But your highly educated with Institutional training which allows you to apply FA.

Some of these peeps wouldn't know what Fundamentals were, let alone be able to learn it and apply it.

It's like a Professional Fighter trying to communicate with a bunch Bar room Street Fighters. They haven't got the training or the opportunity to apply it. Much easier just to follow the trend.
 
Continuing the Boxing analogy, we've even got two Posters so punch-drunk from the Market that they subscribe to the 'just take your best guess and click click click Man" strategy.
 
So you’d rather guess what’s going on with the stock price instead? I’ve not seen a “technical analyst” with a hit rate above 50%, which means they underperform random guesses. Why would you believe in a system that underperforms like that?
If you combine the system with risk management it doesn't under perform.
By cutting losses and letting the winners run you don't need a better than 50% win rate.
I rarely have over 50%, but my R/R makes up for lots of small losses. Draw downs are minimal.
The goal at the end of the day is to increase your capital.
 
I don’t think you understand what fundamental analysis actually is. Estimates of future cash flows, the discount rate, and long term growth, are constantly changing.
errrr, I was trading when you were still at school, back 20-30 years ago my trading was on fundamentals more than technicals.
But anyway, ASX has just opened and we are down.
upload_2023-11-23_7-19-44.png


but guess what....?

upload_2023-11-23_7-20-58.png


I'm up on a down day just using technicals long only stocks, it's not a great deal but better than a kick in the ass.
 
Last edited:
70% Technicals 30% Fundamentals or thereabouts for a Retailer imo.

I have an Accounting Degree, but I would never try to compete with the Big Players on Fundamentals. They know much more than I'll ever know.
 
If you combine the system with risk management it doesn't under perform.
By cutting losses and letting the winners run you don't need a better than 50% win rate.
I rarely have over 50%, but my R/R makes up for lots of small losses. Draw downs are minimal.
The goal at the end of the day is to increase your capital.
If technicals add negative value (by subtracting from a random 50/50), why use them at all?
 
errrr, I was trading when you were still at school, back 20-30 years ago my trading was on fundamentals more than technicals.
But anyway, ASX has just opened and we are down.
View attachment 328137

but guess what....?

View attachment 328138

I'm up on a down day just using technicals long only stocks, it's not a great deal but better than a kick in the ass.
I hear what you’re saying but practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

If your hit rate is not above 50% why are you advocating for a style that does worse than a coin flip?
 
Back
Top