TA can't predict that a large order will be placed now and not in 15 min, 1 hour, etc

If there were simple rules to follow that worked, then every one would trade them and be rich.

Indicators are generally worth less. I'm not sure why they were even created. I imagine it mostly the Jack Hershey's of the world.


For me TA works, so long as your winners are bigger than your losers. Sure you can get 50/50 chance of winning by flipping a coin, but it's not 50/50 if you're target is 3 times bigger than your stop. TA can help you to determine when and where a bigger move is possible, what target to aim for, where to get entry, etc...

More often than not intra day price will react pretty hard off certain moving averages for example. Okay, it might go right through it, but if it's about 50/50 and you get big moves off it when it happens, then you can make money trading it, and it's much better than a coin flip.


IMO you could take all the indicators and put them in the trash.
 
As I see it…

TA – reflects
Traders – anticipate
Idiots – predict


As for TA being worthless – the choice is yours – chose carefully


RN
 
Quote from crgarcia:

I witnessed how a large bank placed large orders at random times.

TA just can't predict that the order will be placed now and not in 15 min, 1 hr, 2 hrs, etc.

You may watch all intraday TA indicators, yet they can't anticipate the large order that will break all support/resistance, tends, overbought/oversold, etc.

Conclusion: TA is worthless.
TA is only recommended by brokers who want you to generate lots of commissions from frequent trading.
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Its ok to be wrong about something(specially about tough thing like trading) ,we all have some views that are not exactly based on reality.
But i`am feeling really sad when you`r insisting to emphasize
your wrongness in every other post you write.
Its like a gut wrenching feeling you get when you see some
crippled person crossing the street.
I`m begging you please stop writing this stuff, for my sake.
 
Quote from joe4422:

If there were simple rules to follow that worked, then every one would trade them and be rich.
Indicators are generally worth less. I'm not sure why they were even created. I imagine it mostly the Jack Hershey's of the world.
For me TA works, so long as your winners are bigger than your losers. Sure you can get 50/50 chance of winning by flipping a coin, but it's not 50/50 if you're target is 3 times bigger than your stop. TA can help you to determine when and where a bigger move is possible, what target to aim for, where to get entry, etc...
More often than not intra day price will react pretty hard off certain moving averages for example. Okay, it might go right through it, but if it's about 50/50 and you get big moves off it when it happens, then you can make money trading it, and it's much better than a coin flip.
IMO you could take all the indicators and put them in the trash.
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I bought a Yugo once and it was a piece of crap car. All cars are pieces of crap and should be abolished.

Honey, I'm sorry I just dropped our son on his head.
 
It ain't how you get in. It's how you get out that counts.
You have to manage both.There are many ways to to both. To be successful they have to mesh.Both must adapt to changing market conditions.IMHO
Call the process what you will.Labels don't change anything.
 
the answer to why TA is worthless is........

trader a "omg man i so see this resistance, if we break it it's gunna rip"

trader b "hell yea man, you see that reverse S&H wedge quadruple bottom failure break out? lol how could anyone think short?"

trader a "damn yo big offer at 50.00, once he lifts its over"

mean while 100 shares print 50.01 outside market.

trader a & b "I'm long a million shares"

stock pulls in back to 49.80

trader a & b " shit man I had to hit out"

2 hours later stock is at 51.00
 
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the answer to why TA is worthless is........

trader a "omg man i so see this resistance, if we break it it's gunna rip"

trader b "hell yea man, you see that reverse S&H wedge quadruple bottom failure break out? lol how could anyone think short?"

trader a "damn yo big offer at 50.00, once he lifts its over"

mean while 100 shares print 50.01 outside market.

trader a & b "I'm long a million shares"

stock pulls in back to 49.80

trader a & b " shit man I had to hit out"

2 hours later stock is at 51.00
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The reason most people "THINK" Technical Analysis is worthless is they have no clue what modern Technical Analysis is or how to use it.

Your examples aren't of Technical Analysis but it is sophomorically cute.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

The reason most people "THINK" Technical Analysis is worthless is they have no clue what modern Technical Analysis is or how to use it.

Your examples aren't of Technical Analysis but it is sophomorically cute.
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TA indeed IS worthless.
TA can't predict large orders, placed at random times.

TA is only promoted by commission hungry brokers, so you overtrade.
 
If good technical analysis and statistical quant skills are useless, then I have no way to logically explain my good fortune in many different market spaces over an extended period of time.
 
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NOBODY learns to trade, at least not in short term trading.
There's no skill in trading , only bouts of luck, and unluck.
Mostly unluck by the way.
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Really? So, given two daytraders who use TA as their primary tool, one with a successful ten-year track record, and one who has lost money each year for ten years straight, who would you rather have manage your money? If you really believe that there is no skill in daytrading, then your reply should be that it doesn't matter, and you should be just as willing to let the losing trader manage your money as you would be to let the successful trader manage it.

So, what would you really do if presented with this choice?
 
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