T Bond has gone parabolic

Quote from ralph00:

Crash is coming - this week, next month, next year ... I don't know. I'd like to get traders thoughts on the best way to play it.

My guess would be to purchase deep out-of-the-money puts on the CBOT.

Another option would be deep out-of-the-money interest rate calls on the CBOE.

Yet another option would be calls on TBT.

It seems like all of those option markets are pretty thin though.


Order in for TBT at $36.00


This is absolutely insane....


TLT nearing 121 at this moment....
 
Quote from ralph00:

Crash is coming - this week, next month, next year ... I don't know. I'd like to get traders thoughts on the best way to play it.

My guess would be to purchase deep out-of-the-money puts on the CBOT.

Another option would be deep out-of-the-money interest rate calls on the CBOE.

Yet another option would be calls on TBT.

It seems like all of those option markets are pretty thin though.


and the US-$ devaluates parabolic as well right now...
probably biggest 2day move vs. yen, euro, swiss franc ever...

if i were you i would protest at fed ny or somewhere, the big theft of wealth has started...
 
Quote from ralph00:

Crash is coming - this week, next month, next year ... I don't know. I'd like to get traders thoughts on the best way to play it...


Waiting for to actually start is my plan.
 
Dont even bet against it. Everything can and likely will continue straight up. If you are not careful here, you could be losing your shirt if you are in a negative bearish mood.

I like to swing and this is a swingers paradise biased long.
 
I bought some TBT yesterday, probably a bit early, and have been shorting small chunks of IEF. Oddly, I think my broker has been having a tough time locating because the orders are getting filled slowly.

I may stop out of TBT being 2x and all but feel very confident about shorting IEF. The chart is an absolutely textbook "exhaustion gap." I don't care about what the underlying is (USO, IEF, the hot tech stocks in 1999, etc.) when the chart looks like this it WILL come down...and usually with plenty of vigor. Check out what IEF did in June 2003...
 
Quote from BullAlert:

I bought some TBT yesterday, probably a bit early, and have been shorting small chunks of IEF. Oddly, I think my broker has been having a tough time locating because the orders are getting filled slowly.

I may stop out of TBT being 2x and all but feel very confident about shorting IEF. The chart is an absolutely textbook "exhaustion gap." I don't care about what the underlying is (USO, IEF, the hot tech stocks in 1999, etc.) when the chart looks like this it WILL come down...and usually with plenty of vigor. Check out what IEF did in June 2003...


Hmmm.. you are fighting fed policy. The fed said they are going to buy treasuries, esp the medium long end, to support mortgages and infuse capital into the system.

This is a repricing. It will fall off, but not anytime in the next 3 months.
 
as I understand the double short ETFs underperform in the long-run a doubled sized short in the ETF or underlying
 
Quote from scriabinop23:

Fannie Mae spreads tighter...

hmmmm....

So, could you please explain what did you mean by "[..]and wait until Fannie Mae spreads come in.. "?
 
Quote from PohPoh:

look for high in bonds to be = to high in crude..
around 147...

that sounds very logical and represents the quintessential thinking methodology of ET posters.
of course you could be right.
 
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