Hey thanks for reading my thread. Check what I wrote in post #9.
wont work well enough unless you can account for all that slippage! on everytradeHey thanks for the answers so far. At present, I trade the NQ/YM spread at this ratio:
Long 2*NQU19
Short 3*YMU19
This is about $304,164.40 LONG and $388,290 SHORT. This is not an arbitrage, it is a relative value trade. I am trying to understand if a similar type of trade is possible using a position of
Long QQQ Calls and Short DIA Puts. << Synthetic Futures Spread.
You can see that if I just tried to trade the cash stocks in a similar ratio this would become very capital intensive. Therefore, can options provide a similar leverage to this trade?
My math would suggest that initiating a position
Long 32 ATM CALLS QQQ
Short 15 ATM PUTS DIA
with the same expiry would give me a similar exposure to the above. To the comments above, I am bullish on both indexes when buying the spread (if that makes sense). The equity options are much more liquid (AFAIK) than the Futures Options. Thanks.
i think we get your point. traders mix up buying n selling puts all the time. especially when reading a blog on a 2x3 inch fing screen. but thanks for the explanation or short puts or writing puts or granting puts..got it. lolI think you missed my point...
Long call and short put is not same as long and short futures trading a relative spread.
If you are long a call and short a put BOTH make money if market goes up. BOTH lose.money of market goes down. This is a pure bullish position.
Long a future/short a future is a relative value that profits if spread widens.
Not the same thing at all.
I think you misunderstood my post #9. I saidI think you missed my point...
would replicate the payoff from the futures spread given the right ratios. However, the point above by REDP1800 is well recieved. On second thought, the fills and commissions would eat you alive trying to do this. Thanks guys.Long Call/Short Put in QQQ while at the same time Short Call/Long Put in DIA
How about one of you sick equity options gurus run me through how I can lever up a spread like NQ/YM. I am thinking go long QQQ calls and short DIA puts?
How about one of you sick equity options gurus run me through how I can lever up a spread like NQ/YM. I am thinking go long QQQ calls and short DIA puts?
I'm a futures guy and I like having leverage but this options strategy is kind of intriguing. Can you scalp this? Would this be capital efficient?
Please assume $100,000 USD and portfolio margin @ IB (Reg-T margin if you prefer) if you would be so kind.
Thanks
If you wish to trade ES/YM futures spread by using Option on it
and lets assume you are wanting to be Long ES and Short YM
It would be LONG CALL ON ES CONTRCAT AND LONG PUT on YM
and NOT Long call + Short Put
just the same way you go long one futures contract and short the other in the pair