Switching to Linux from Win10

[Simples]

Nope, with Windows most everything auto-magically installs. You double click on the driver executable and maybe reboot the machine. This is not the case with Linux. Nothing auto-magically installs and when it does, you can easily get stuck in dependency hell.

The entire point of Linux is to play with the guts. Steve Jobs' "genious" was that he figured out that 97% of the population can barely even manage double clicking on an executable, much less edit configuration files. You use Linux because you want to learn how operating systems function, not because you want an easier way of manipulating data with a spreadsheet program.

Yes, it can make a great server, I use it as such, but as a desktop, it really leaves something to be desired. I don't know why people insist on spending hours tinkering with Linux to get something that takes a simple double click of an executable to work on Windows.

Windows barely installs these days, even with valid license, and has much worse hardware compatibility than Linux. Maybe Windows 10 has improved over Windows 8 somewhat, but got even more drawbacks than ever.

Linux Mint at least tries to install all drivers by default. Sometimes, a thing or two gets fucked up and dependency hell is always underestimated by everyone, so while not perfect by a long shot, it's best bet if you install OS from scratch.

Freedom is underestimated too.

 

[eurusdzn]

Nope, with Windows most everything auto-magically installs. You double click on the driver executable and maybe reboot the machine. This is not the case with Linux. Nothing auto-magically installs and when it does, you can easily get stuck in dependency hell.

The entire point of Linux is to play with the guts. Steve Jobs' "genious" was that he figured out that 97% of the population can barely even manage double clicking on an executable, much less edit configuration files. You use Linux because you want to learn how operating systems function, not because you want an easier way of manipulating data with a spreadsheet program.

Yes, it can make a great server, I use it as such, but as a desktop, it really leaves something to be desired. I don't know why people insist on spending hours tinkering with Linux to get something that takes a simple double click of an executable to work on Windows.

I was under the impression that Linux distos today ship with a large variety of drivers.
I also believe there is auto probing/detection of devices and UDEV manages on the fly
creation/deletion of driver entry points in /dev.
If the driver is not present than a brief crash course on the device package repositories,
Managers and installers (YUM and RPM) should not take too long . YUM with an option I cant recall, determines and installs dependencies automatically as well.
Things have changed with Linux devices to emulate Windows Plug andPlay.
Least that's what I am told.

 

[JackRab]

Your bottleneck is probably the hard drive. I have a 5 year old laptop.
Booting into Win10 before SSD = 3 -4 minutes.
Booting into Win10 after SSD = 10-15 seconds.

15 seconds includes the login and all the post login startup protocols and apps.

Yeah I think so too... next laptop is going to have a SSD. But for now, I don't want to fiddle with the hardware so much... thanks for the suggestion mate.

 

[JackRab]

are u sure u r productive in linux? Don't switch for novelty sake. All win vers are just small iterations of the other so its not dark age. Traders want to trade n not meddle with tech. If u want to do tech, trading is not for u

In general I'm not productive at all... usually I just sit on my ass and watch porn ..

I don't really want to do a lot of tech, but I'll give Linux a go as OS. Test it first on my laptop... if it's a hassle, I'll just switch back to Win.

For now... I'm getting pissed off already, because the GRUB installation keeps failing... so up until now... Win vs Lin... -1 vs 0

 

[JackRab]

You can partition your HD and install virtual Linux but I believe it is too much. If your laptop is too slow that you hate it, it is not Windows fault. Do the following steps and then if it did not help, upgrade your laptop.
1- Uninstall any not used programs that you are not really using it. Be careful and do not un-install everything that you do not know them.
2- check for update in setting-> update and securities.
3- Install malwarebytes and do a scan
4- install ccleaner and do a clean (uncheck deleting cookies ) and also clean registery
5- unset some programs that you do not want to run at startup (like yahoo messenger or skype if you have them)
6- reboot your system.

Buy a laptop which has 8 to 12 Meg RAM and 1TB HD and go with i5 which is cheaper than i7 and also one or two generation lower to save money. Combination of SSD and regular HD is the best.

All good suggestions, but I already do that regularly... I don't have that many programs on my laptop anymore, just trading platform, MS office... that's about it. I almost daily do CCleaner and SuperanitSpyware... and now and then run Malwarebytes.

I'm on to the point that it's definitely Windows fault, hahaa... if I do a clean install... it runs fine for about 1-2 weeks... then it starts to significantly slow. Crap... I'll see how this ends up and if that doesn't improve I will let everyone know what new laptop I got Laptop is not the main trading station anyway.

 

[Haze]

Just buy a MAC and watch all your windows issues go away. This does pose a issue with finding a compatible trading platform, but I assure you they are out there.

 

[JackRab]

Just buy a MAC and watch all your windows issues go away. This does pose a issue with finding a compatible trading platform, but I assure you they are out there.

I don't like Apple... I like it as a fruit, but it stops there...

 

[hajimow]

Just buy a MAC and watch all your windows issues go away. This does pose a issue with finding a compatible trading platform, but I assure you they are out there.

MAC is a great PC but when you buy a MAC, you pay between $1700 to $3000 for a laptop and when you want to buy a Windows laptop, you buy a $350 one and then you want to compare them. Buy a $2000 Windows laptop and then compare with a MAC.

 

[hajimow]

All good suggestions, but I already do that regularly... I don't have that many programs on my laptop anymore, just trading platform, MS office... that's about it. I almost daily do CCleaner and SuperanitSpyware... and now and then run Malwarebytes.

I'm on to the point that it's definitely Windows fault, hahaa... if I do a clean install... it runs fine for about 1-2 weeks... then it starts to significantly slow. Crap... I'll see how this ends up and if that doesn't improve I will let everyone know what new laptop I got Laptop is not the main trading station anyway.

I have 2 laptops. Both Dell XPS17Z and XPS 14Z. Both are 5 years old and both have I7 second generation processor. 17 inch one is ON 24/7 and 14 inch which I carry is always in hibernate mode (I do not turn it off) and I had no problem with speed. Maybe bringing up the OS takes long time and when it is ON, it works fine. Am I right?
When I want to buy a laptop, I do not buy a brand. I buy the specification. I do not need the highest spec as I might not need it and I do not want to spend money on something that I will not use it. Now I believe you have enough info to try stuff and maybe buy a newer laptop (something around $700 to $1000).

 

[sle]

MAC is a great PC but when you buy a MAC, you pay between $1700 to $3000 for a laptop and when you want to buy a Windows laptop, you buy a $350 one and then you want to compare them. Buy a $2000 Windows laptop and then compare with a MAC.

I have made the switchto MacBook Pro from a similarly priced laptop (one of the fancy Sony ones). I will never go back. It’s just
a. so well made, down to tiny details
b. SW/HW is properly integrated
c. gives you both the stability of *nix and application range of a retail operating system