Swiss Janitors

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You still like gold at these levels? :)
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yes - the parabolic C-wave is not over yet
 
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What is the earning of Swiss Janitors when converted to US dollar? .8183 is the exchange rate.
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Why, you looking for a new career?
 
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I am living in CH for nearly 6 years now and it sucks in many ways - it reminds me of GERMANY 1939.

btw. my little story regarding landlords goes like this:
Before our house was ready my family and I lived for 3 month in a totally overpriced appartment in Zoll**** which was paid for by my employer at the time. Not only was it loud because of construction in front of the house and on one side but we had some HouseNazis living above us that tried to give us hell about pretty much anything(dogs,kids).
To make a long story short when we left he tried to claim over 7000 CHF in damages,
(grass,plants,scratches, cleaning etc.) the good thing was that he didn´t expect such a resistance from my employer (whom I had instructed not to pay) and in the end they paid him 900CHF for a professional cleaning job which would have cost us definately more .
Could you imagine someone new in this country and trying to figure out how to battle such a claim when lawyers charge 300/h
CH is in many ways a sneaky place with a lot of hidden agendas and phobias, there are a lot of things that can be a major pain in the neck and the quality of life depends how you can handle those issues.
It happens just too many times that folks from the US come to CH and tell me they wish they would have known this or that and everybody painted such a rosy picture about the swiss.
In general I say if your stay is only ST .... like 1 year ... enjoy the experience but if you need to stay more than that you better watch out.
to sum it up : expect to pay for everything at least double of what you were used to and sometimes even a lot more .... exception would be clothing which is reasonable and cars ( +30%).
...... a couple of observations for you to consider.........
1. ZH was voted by Conde Nast the 2nd most boring city in europe
2. one of the highest suicide rates in europe
3. one of the highest divorce rates in europe
4. weather sucks .... especially for someone who moved from FL
5. very inconvinient..... shopping,entertainment
6. very strict laws,rules and huge fines about pretty much anything (mobile blitzer,speed traps)
7. racist attitudes (blacks,,jews, arabs)
8. over 25% of the populations are non-swiss (immigrants from eastern european countries)
9. need to speak the dialect swiss german otherwise you will be isolated
10. everything is about 2 to 3x the price as you know it from home
11. living in a rental appartment can be a nightmare if you are not careful
12. swiss are friendly on the surface but very difficult to deal with when problems arise(narrow minded)
13. consumer desert

anglo-saxons come her to take advantage of higher salaries and squeeze out as much as they can - if you have teenage kids watch out because with 99% certainty they will hate the experience.
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Found this thread by chance - my opinion is soooo different. One point about immigration, adding the non registered immigrants it's actually way more than 25%, hence there is even less need to speak swiss german. German is a definite plus but one can do very well in Zurich not speaking it. Immigrants come from more places than eastern europe as well. In Geneva over 50% of the population is foreign born. Laws used to be much more permissive than in most of Europe and nighlife in Zurich pretty wild (although it's a small city hence there are fewer clubs than in bigger places).

Besides I don't like tropical and subtropical climates and don't mind swiss weather.

It's expensive yes (quite a bit ore than Finland btw, I'm surprised at the OP's numbers), but incomes are indeed very high and it's business briendly.

Nice country, I also like their neutrality policy and their attitude during WW2 is much more laudable than the attitude of its neighburing countries.
 
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Found this thread by chance - my opinion is soooo different. One point about immigration, adding the non registered immigrants it's actually way more than 25%, hence there is even less need to speak swiss german. German is a definite plus but one can do very well in Zurich not speaking it. Immigrants come from more places than eastern europe as well. In Geneva over 50% of the population is foreign born. Laws used to be much more permissive than in most of Europe and nighlife pretty wild (although it's a small city hence there are fewer clubs than in bigger places).

Besides I don't like tropical and subtropical climates and don't mind swiss weather.

It's expensive yes (quite a bit ore than Finland btw, I'm surprised at the OP's numbers), but incomes are indeed very high and it's business briendly.

Nice country, I also like their neutrality policy and their attitude during WW2 is much more laudable than the attitude of its neighburing countries.
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" much more laudable " except for returning swiss bank accounts to their right owners and the borders were not exactly open to refugees.

with immigrants from the east and from africa it doesn't sound like english is the 2nd language.
 
Well, we're talking about the heart of continental Europe, there are 4 legal languages in Switzerland and none of them is english. Latin languages will go quite far all over Switzerland, particulary french and italian, but you should be able to go around with English as well. Also there are plenty of immigrants from Western Europe, and other places, I don't know what's the obsession with Eastern Europe.

Besides I find it much better to accept the money from someone and return it if he manages to come back and claim it than confiscate his belongings, and accessorily hand him over to the germans like the french did to Jews on various occasions. Germany and Austria are other bordering countries with Switzerland, do you have doubts of which of those 3 countries attitude during WW was better ?
 
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What is the earning of Swiss Janitors when converted to US dollar? .8183 is the exchange rate.
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Why, you thinking of moving over there and getting just such a job?
 
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