Quote from blah12345678:
How about throwing in $6 RT commissions and 1 pt slippage each way?
It's been bandied about various places, especially in pabst's article in the Greatest Hits section, that traders are typically profitable before commissions. After commissions, they're net losers...
Might as well make it realistic (from a retail standpoint). To do otherwise is delusional...


Quote from gmst:
Thanks for checking out the thread
What you say is generally true and important for intra-day trading. Effect of commissions is very small for swing trades. However, to make it absolutely accurate, I agree a 4$ round-trip commission should be added. Slippage is not necessary since all these fills have been on limit orders.
And purpose of this thread is to just practice swing trading. I have been day trading for sometime now, and would like to develop the psychological wherewithal to keep trades open for days. Its actually quite a challenge for a day trader![]()
Quote from blah12345678:
Are you limiting yourself to looking at just the hourly/daily charts, or driving yourself manic watching the DOM or the 5/15/30 min charts?
Are you only trading ES or would you consider markets that trend better w/o the intraday manic-depression?
How are you determining the swings you're hoping to ride?