Swift US victory !!

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Nolan

the apparent swift US victory should once and for all, quiet ALL those people who have second guessed this administration.

Reminds me of Jack Nicholson in "a few good men" admonishing Tom Cruise for questioning the manner in which he lives in freedom. These anti-war people should NOT question why they have the luxury of libing in freedom. We'd prefer you just said "thank you".

nolan
 
March 20, 2003, 4:00 p.m.
More Bad News for Daschle
Taking out terror of all nationalities.

The vision-challenged opponents of the war against the terror masters, those who have been saying that you can't fight Saddam and terrorism at the same time, got bad news today from Baghdad. It turns out that our surgical strike on Wednesday night — the one aimed at the "top leadership" of Saddam's little hell-between-two-rivers — got an unexpected bonus: a terrorist from the Palestine Liberation Front. And the good news comes not from the Pentagon but from the PLF itself.

According to UPI, the Palestine Liberation Front said Thursday one of its guerrillas was killed during the U.S. missile strikes on Iraq. A PLF statement released in the southern city of Sidon (Syrian-occupied Lebanon) identified the slain guerrilla as 1st Lieutenant Ahmed Walid Raguib al-Baz who was killed early Thursday "while confronting the treacherous U.S. air bombardment on Iraq."

I don't know anything about the late Mr. Al-Baz, but I know all too much about the PLF and its evil leader, Abu Abbas. This was the group that organized the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro back in the mid-1980s. They segregated the American passengers from the rest, and then courageously pushed an American Jewish paraplegic in his wheelchair, Leon Klinghoffer, into the Mediterranean. We tried to have Abu Abbas arrested in Italy, but he escaped through Yugoslavia to Yemen.

The PLF has long been one of the most lethal Palestinian terrorist groups, and achieved notoriety for its high-tech killings. Recently, Abu Abbas had come to live in the Palestinian Authority, but when Israel moved against the terrorists there he ran away — to Baghdad. The PLF has been one of the main conduits for Iraqi money to Palestinian suicide bombers.

So, in a single stroke, we have demonstrated the rightness of our cause and the wisdom of President Bush. It makes no sense to distinguish between the terrorists and the regimes that support them, for they are one and the same. We targeted a high-level meeting of top Iraqi officials, and willy-nilly eliminated a member of the terror network. Time will tell just how good and how lucky we were in the opening salvo of the Second Gulf War. But there is already cause for satisfaction.

Somebody should tell Daschle and Byrd.

— Michael Ledeen, an NRO contributing editor, is most recently the author of The War Against the Terror Masters. Ledeen, Resident Scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute, can be reached through
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http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen032003b.asp
 
Quote from Nolan:


Reminds me of Jack Nicholson in "a few good men" admonishing Tom Cruise for questioning the manner in which he lives in freedom. These anti-war people should NOT question why they have the luxury of libing in freedom. We'd prefer you just said "thank you".

nolan [/B]
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I don't get your reasoning. Merely registering dissent doesn't imply one doesn't value the liberty one has. Following your logic would mean that all those who opposed the Vietnam war should have left the U.S. Sometimes loving one's own country requires one to be critical; in fact, it may be one's duty to warn that it has gone too far, at least under some circumstances. If patriotism allows no dissent, then we are no better than living in a totalitarian country.

The proper attitude is to engage the arguments themselves, i. e., to examine whether this war is just or not, not whether one should be grateful for the freedom one has. That's a different issue.

stock.
 
It could be that the Iraqis really are rolling over, that they really have recognized that we're on their side, and that we really did score a major hit on the leadership - destabilizing it even if we didn't kill SH and his sons.

On the other hand, though the early signs do seem good, it's way too early to declare victory - as sweet as a remarkably clean, "boring' victory would be.
 
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I don't get your reasoning. Merely registering dissent doesn't imply one doesn't value the liberty one has. Following your logic would mean that all those who opposed the Vietnam war should have left the U.S. Sometimes loving one's own country requires one to be critical; in fact, it may be one's duty to warn that it has gone too far, at least under some circumstances. If patriotism allows no dissent, then we are no better than living in a totalitarian country.

The proper attitude is to engage the arguments themselves, i. e., to examine whether this war is just or not, not whether one should be grateful for the freedom one has. That's a different issue.

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There are people who think disagreement is the same as being a dissident. These people are fools, like Gore Vidal amd Noam Choamsky. What if the critics are reflective anti-American?
 
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There are people who think disagreement is the same as being a dissident. These people are fools, like Gore Vidal amd Noam Choamsky. What if the critics are reflective anti-American?
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Agree. That's why we need to look at the arguments themselves, and examine the reasons why people are anti-American instead of merely labeling them as traitors? There are some cases where it'd be shameful to be citizens of one's own country, for example, to be German and to be doing nothing while millions of Jews were perishing in concentration camps. Patriotism is dangerous when one is carried away by delusions of grandeur.


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>>The proper attitude is to engage the arguments themselves,
i. e., to examine whether this war is just or not<<

Yeh, how many of these twits who are demonstrating are able to think for themselves ?

In a way it makes me think that people don't deserve the luxury of a democracy.

I say this not because they happen to have an outlook opposite mine but because they don't seem to have a brain in their head.

Churchill called the Second Worldwar 'the unnecessary war'.

As early as 1936 Churchill was telling everyone who stood still long enough to listen 'let us nipp them in the bud before it is too late.

Unfortunately there were many people with memories of the horrors of the previous worldwar walking around with badges in their lapel showing a broken gun with the words 'no more war' underneath.

As a consequence Churchill was labelled a warmonger.

If only those ostriches had been able to see the obvious the horrors of the subsequent worldwar could have been avoided.

Now whether these demonstrators then (and now) are or were deaf and blind or whether they were brainless I'll leave to you to decide.

freealways
 
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>>The proper attitude is to engage the arguments themselves,
i. e., to examine whether this war is just or not<<

Yeh, how many of these twits who are demonstrating are able to think for themselves ?

In a way it makes me think that people don't deserve the luxury of a democracy.

I say this not because they happen to have an outlook opposite mine but because they don't seem to have a brain in their head.

Churchill called the Second Worldwar 'the unnecessary war'.

As early as 1936 Churchill was telling everyone who stood still long enough to listen 'let us nipp them in the bud before it is too late.

Unfortunately there were many people with memories of the horrors of the previous worldwar walking around with badges in their lapel showing a broken gun with the words 'no more war' underneath.

As a consequence Churchill was labelled a warmonger.

If only those ostriches had been able to see the obvious the horrors of the subsequent worldwar could have been avoided.

Now whether these demonstrators then (and now) are or were deaf and blind or whether they were brainless I'll leave to you to decide.

freealways
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Excellent comments, Brother freealways... I totally agree...
 
Daschle and others have been saying this is a dark time for america, I say this is a great time for america. We have shown that we have enough backbone to do what is necessary, and at the same time we have shown that we are not bloodthirsty.

Lord knows we could have totally destroyed the Iraqi military by now but chose to give them a chance to surrender, even after all deadlines have passed.

Some people will continue to wallow in propaganda and resentment, but I think most will simply see the plain truth that we are just doing what needs to be done, and that it was overdue.
 
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