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luisHK said:
Florida could have 5 times the number of cases, if it hadn´t locked down its society and forced people to wear a facemask I´d say it has done better anyway.
But the saddest part is heavily restricted states don´t even have better covid numbers to show for their destruction of society.
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As intelligent people know, Masks and Lockdowns are just control BS, not an effective way to fight a virus, thankfully it's a hardly a deadly virus so all is good, just a virus covered by the media like it's end of times.

Masks LOL Covid to small, slip right through so pointless, slap anyone, not worked anywhere that's put them in, ignore, just control BS and FEAR so they can so who's scared, ie the people driving around in there cars alone with masks, or in the country side on there own or ever swimming in the sea 1 woman LOL

Lockdowns, any lockdown where you can walk into a super market with 100's of others, but not the beach on your own, or a hair dressers with 1 or 2 others, isn't a lockdown, it's a selective shop closure to screw us all over, nothing more, why they don't work.


If you want to do a proper lockdown, 2 months can't leave the house, army on the streets handing out ration packs entire world same time and it's gone maybe 4 months.

Talking to friends head care worker earlier, she's got 200+ she sees regular last year, 1 covid death, 15 cancers / heart attacks, as she says, it's just an excuse to be shitty to people, and phase people out, people becoming more and more sociopaths and autistic quickly.
 
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW

Now that vaccinations are underway...people will find a way to fuck that up too before vaccination herd immunity is reached.

wrbtrader
 
luisHK said:
There are other reasons Trump was voted out, it´s actualy hard to imagine the Republicans couldn´t find a less obnoxious candidate. But Federal US gives the world a good image of what lockdowns attain. New York passing the 1 year mark as a heavily taxed and restricted hellhole, Florida and Texas almost business as usual.
I had Republican sympathies before covid, but now have a hard time associating democrats with anything less than nightmarish
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Different factors affect different states

Hawaii had one of the lowest Covid infections and they are VERY Democratic.

Blue states were hit the hardest because
1. They had more contact with international travel
2. Trump delayed any federal action that the states HAD to act on their own and by then it was too late. There is evidence this was actually intentional to make the democrat governors look bad (while letting thousands of people die). Maybe you should be associating republicans with something not less than nightmarish. But then again, you have supported concentration camps for Muslims in china.
 
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newwurldmn said:
Different factors affect different states

Hawaii had one of the lowest Covid infections and they are VERY Democratic.

Blue states were hit the hardest because
1. They had more contact with international travel
2. Trump delayed any federal action that the states HAD to act on their own and by then it was too late. There is evidence this was actually intentional to make the democrat governors look bad (while letting thousands of people die). Maybe you should be associating republicans with something not less than nightmarish. But then again, you have supported concentration camps for Muslims in china.
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Yes ? I have supported... what ?? can you please post a reference ??
Makes it hard to take your other arguments seriously.
Besides I´m curious to see how much less contact with International travel Florida has than California, it seems to be getting a lot of national tourism as well, not sure americans have flocked to NY as readily as to Florida over the last year
 
As of Number 2, curious to see the evidence you refer to as well, the reason it would make democrats governors look worse than republican isn´t obvious, although Cuomo does indeed look beyond horrendous after 1 plus year dealing with covid and hammering away freedoms americans took for granted ( it seems rich to accuse republicans for Cuomo´s long lasting attack on citizens´rights, but than you don´t need much evidence to point fingers where it feels more confortable to your ideology or religion)
 
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newwurldmn said:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...eligious-crackdown.325665/page-3#post-4749352

I gave you a clean out and you didn’t take it. That’s how people support otherwise abhorrent things.


re: Trump
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag....-states-is-worse-than-previously-thought.html
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Yes, I stand by my words there, a well as the ones in the subsequent posts in that thread ( I can live and think without your blessing ya know - so much for your clean out) can´t say the scope of repression in China back than, shortly after there were several racially motivated deadly attacks on Han unknown from their Uighurs murderers, was as public as it is now.
Back home, in France, where we had to deal with several mass murders from muslims, opinion surveys at the same time showed disconcerting support from muslims for violent actions against all they find offensive, yet which is considered acceptable in France, I would also support an heavier handed approach.
As I said anyway, you distorted my words, and I suspect the rest of the evidence is equally distorted.
 
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Btw, the below post is from the same thread you quoted, a reply to your "clean out offer".
Does one need a whole life of study to become such a mass apologist ( it´s republicans and economic issues that are responsible for muslim terrorism and democrats chipping away at citizens´freedoms) ?

"Deadliest attacks in my neck of the woods:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe#Deadliest_attacks

Besides when talking about opinion polls of muslims, I mean polls about what european muslims think :

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey"
 
luisHK said:
Yes, I stand by my words there, a well as the ones in the subsequent posts in that thread ( I can live and think without your blessing ya know - so much for your clean out) can´t say the scope of repression in Chin was as public as it is now back than, shortly after there were several racially motivated deadly attacks on Han (Han people unknown from their Uighurs attackers, it was just racial).
Back home, in France, where we had to deal with several mass murders from muslims and opinion surveys at the same time showed disconcerting support from muslims for violent actions against all they find offensive, yet which is considered acceptable in France, I would also support an heavier handed approach.
As I said anyway, you distorted my words, and I suspect the rest of the evidence is equally distorted.
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The evidence was pretty clear then, it’s just that now you can’t use mental gymnastics to avoid it.

I find your politics nothing short of nightmarish that you would condemn an entire people who have done nothing wrong. You would support the lockdown of an entire people but then lament a lockdown of another intended to prevent millions of deaths but would inconvenience you.
 
newwurldmn said:
The evidence was pretty clear then, it’s just that now you can’t use mental gymnastics to avoid it.

I find your politics nothing short of nightmarish that you would condemn an entire people who have done nothing wrong. You would support the lockdown of an entire people but then lament a lockdown of another intended to prevent millions of deaths but would inconvenience you.
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I´ll just quote my post above, in case you missed it as we posted at the same time. Nah, I don´t support the internment of all Uighurs, but after having spent a few years in China, I´ve noticed it has a very edgy government where people lose the little freedom they have for stepping only slightly out of the acceptable path (not only muslims).
I support the extermination of people supporting strict lockdowns though, all races, genders and religions alike, I´m open minded like this, and know you like slapping the Race card around. Also wish all kinds ills to those supporting most lockdowns in place.

"Btw, the below post is from the same thread you quoted, a reply to your "clean out offer".
Does one need a whole life of study to become such a mass apologist ( it´s republicans and economic issues that are responsible for muslim terrorism and democrats chipping away at citizens´freedoms) ?

"Deadliest attacks in my neck of the woods:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe#Deadliest_attacks

Besides when talking about opinion polls of muslims, I mean polls about what european muslims think :

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey"
 
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