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Hey, anybody remembers India? They did a 2 months lockdown, and now that they are opening up (because you can't lockdown forever) they are dying like flies:
https://time.com/5845953/mumbai-india-coronavirus-hospitals/?utm_source=reddit.com
“We are opening new wards daily but they get filled by end of day with Covid-19 patients. It is pretty bad right now,” said Saad Ahmed, a resident doctor at state-run King Edward Memorial Hospital in central Mumbai. “All wards are now Covid-19 wards and they are full to the capacity.”
Not to mention normal patients are also dying because Covid patients are taking up beds, doctors and resources.
If you don't have the resource, (just to note: Sweden doubled their ICU beds) people die anyway, just later, when you try to go back to normal. It is going to be the same in any poor country, just like in India.
"Despite a strict two-month-long lockdown, the outbreak in India’s financial capital has snowballed, with the city now accounting for more than a fifth of India’s over 5,400 deaths and 190,600 infections. The pandemic’s center is shifting away from New York and Europe to nations like Brazil and India, where under-funded health care infrastructure and poor living conditions provide fertile ground for the virus. India’s virus death toll overtook China’s on Thursday."
https://time.com/5845953/mumbai-india-coronavirus-hospitals/?utm_source=reddit.com
“We are opening new wards daily but they get filled by end of day with Covid-19 patients. It is pretty bad right now,” said Saad Ahmed, a resident doctor at state-run King Edward Memorial Hospital in central Mumbai. “All wards are now Covid-19 wards and they are full to the capacity.”
Not to mention normal patients are also dying because Covid patients are taking up beds, doctors and resources.
If you don't have the resource, (just to note: Sweden doubled their ICU beds) people die anyway, just later, when you try to go back to normal. It is going to be the same in any poor country, just like in India.
"Despite a strict two-month-long lockdown, the outbreak in India’s financial capital has snowballed, with the city now accounting for more than a fifth of India’s over 5,400 deaths and 190,600 infections. The pandemic’s center is shifting away from New York and Europe to nations like Brazil and India, where under-funded health care infrastructure and poor living conditions provide fertile ground for the virus. India’s virus death toll overtook China’s on Thursday."
A bit off topic but India lockdown looked like a disaster from the beginning which probably brought more suffering than the virus will ever do there. Hard to fathom how underfunded the health care there is considering how relatively few cases in a 1 billion + inhabitants country can overwhelm it.
So a 2month lockdown and it came back, what do you suggest a 6month lockdown before it comes back.
Lockdowns, unless early and hard and country closed till vaccine = delay at great cost.
And India have 1Bil+ people so 40K is bugger all 0.004%, look at how many heart attacks have killed people this year, maybe we'd have less deaths if we went outside and did excersize??
Lockdowns + loads of hospital improvements in the UK and people are still dying, people you know die, 100% of people will eventually die, got to start accepting this and moving on.
Swedish expert admits mistakes in country’s handling of coronavirus
https://www.ft.com/content/dae6d006-9adc-46d5-9b4e-79a7841022e8?shareType=nongift
This is a picture of the article
https://i.redd.it/dkx0al7e9n251.jpg
https://www.ft.com/content/dae6d006-9adc-46d5-9b4e-79a7841022e8?shareType=nongift
This is a picture of the article
https://i.redd.it/dkx0al7e9n251.jpg
They could have / should have imposed more restrictions and they could have done such without a lockdown.
Too late for that now...must now follow through with what they started until the data all adds up by the end of the year. A lot can happen in the next 7 months.
Personally, of all the European countries I can travel too...Sweden would be last on my list because of their high death rate until a vaccine or approved treatment is found for the Covid-19.
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They admit could of done better at Care Homes, not like it hasn't affected them the same in the uk with lockdowns and huge damage and loss of none virus related deaths.
Do you plan to visit a COVID hospital or a retirement home? Most of the death occurred there.
I would say you are safer on an average Swedish street/ restaurant than most of Western Europe.
Strongly disagree because I'm not comparing Sweden to other Western Europe...
I'm comparing it to other locations I plan to visit. Thus, Sweden is low of my list of places to visit.
Regardless, it can still move up on my personal list in the next 7 months. They are not going to miss me if I don't go there because other countries have a lower death rate or possibly lower infection rate if the other countries "continue" to improve (declining on the other side of the bell curve).
wrbtrader
No Fear here at all, very very low odds on affecting me or anyone I know.