Sweden

Yes sweden will run up but also peak fast and run back down fast and not screw up there economy and pjt everyone out of business.

If WHO wasn't lying about 4.8% death rate uk would of stuck to this plan to.

USA about 2weeks behind Sweden so compare swedens deaths 2 weeks back to current.

Sweden know its a nothing burger, you don't move on, don't push your over emotional pc snowflake nasty judgy hateful opinion on them, be happy you've screwed over the rest of the world, leave 1 good place.
 
Many countries (including U.S.) are showing declines into the Easter weekend holidays although Sweden still maintains the highest % of deaths.

Simply, if I had to choose between U.S. and Sweden...I would choose the country with the lower % of deaths to its infected population and with the PPE / Ventilators per hospital assuming I would stay away from places like New York.

Regardless, the curve still has not flatten and Sweden has slowly begun to give more warnings to its citizens about social distancing / hand washing / less gatherings.

wrbtrader
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Actually numbers are going down in Sweden. Not sure how it will evolve but them not turning the whole country into a giant jail of terrified citizens hasn t backfired so far. Hats off to Sweden if they can pull this out, there is sure a lot of pressure, external as well as internal, for the country to get in line with the international community and move into lockdown

Because they likely used the best case model the the Princess Liner, where 87% must of been exposed / had and showed no symptoms, they knew it would soon hit most of the population and have no where else to go, then infection rates first and deaths after would drop off till 100% of the population have which will take a while.

Less deaths than the UK adjusting for population and been in there country longer, it's almost like lockdowns are worse off.

Obviously, UK there playing the where C19 is mentioned on the Chart but likely not the main cause, and Sweden there only counting people on Ventilators or dying waiting to get onto a ventilator, as they have no interest in inflating the numbers to justify yours above really.
 
Spain is definately over the peak :) 5 days ahead of the UK.

France looking better.

Italy still burning and finding people to infect, lockdown slowing to hell.

UK's got another week before Peak based on spain, London's peaked 2weeks back.

Sweden, needs longer to tell, might of peaked or just awaiting another area/cluster to form.
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Actually numbers are going down in Sweden. Not sure how it will evolve but them not turning the whole country into a giant jail of terrified citizens hasn t backfired so far. Hats off to Sweden if they can pull this out, there is sure a lot of pressure, external as well as internal, for the country to get in line with the international community and move into lockdown

No job losses, Trillions spent either, definately hats off for not being forced into madness by the scared irrational snowflakes, when will people learn, don't listen to them!!
 
swedens tax rate is about 65% and their sales tax is 25%.
they also only have about 6 million
people opposed to out 350 million.
 
I'm so tired of all the people on here downplaying this.

Yes, we all know that most people will not die from this virus. But lets look at this from another angle, a trading angle as you say.

Back during the 2008 crisis, with those Mortgage Backed Securities, wasn't it something like only 7% of the mortgages needed to fail before the tranche went belly up? Likewise, you don't need 50% of your population to die to reach some critical mass point where its all chaos. You overload the hospital with a few extra hundred people and you have a major, major problem.

If they didn't lock down, and more people started getting sick, do you not think that people themselves would begin to isolate and socially distance (perhaps even with violence?) There might have been 3, 4, 5 times the number of new cases every day, and at that point, society would begin to break down. Its so plainly obvious to me. You after all only need one fucker to yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater to cause pandemonium. Its far too easy to spook an entire herd.

So lets look at this as traders like you say. We all know that more than 90% of the people who catch this will live. But at what level of death, at what level of fear will society begin to disintegrate? The bet that you're making is kind of binary. If you don't do something and just let it run wild and free, you can't just risk 2% of your account (ie. risk 2% of your society). There is no stop loss once the epidemic is out of control. In the beginning it might just be hundreds of cases, but if what you're preventing is a total breakdown, its like putting your entire account into one trade. Even if your win rate is estimated to be 90% (by doing nothing), you cannot make a trade where you have a 10% chance of losing 100% (meaning that if by doing nothing and losing, your city turns to chaos). You can't just risk one city block, and then quickly change gears to saving the other 99 city blocks. You risk the entire city in one shot, in one trade, by either locking down or not locking down.

This is in fact how the trade for this pandemic works. If you don't social distance and get the curve under control, if you let the hospital system burst, you run the risk of everything falling apart. Your water system might fail. Your electrical grid might fail. There is no telling how bad things can get from mass hysteria. Some Latin countries have dead bodies on the streets. If this started happening in any US city, and the government told the citizens to go about their business as usual, I can assure you that there would be mass chaos.
You aren’t completely wrong but your analogy is off base .
No one needed to become financially distressed By the mortgage bubble. Everyone needs to become immune to the Wuhan BatSoup Flu, if possible.
This makes your analogy imperfect and illogical.
 
You aren’t completely wrong but your analogy is off base .
No one needed to become financially distressed By the mortgage bubble. Everyone needs to become immune to the Wuhan BatSoup Flu, if possible.
This makes your analogy imperfect and illogical.

Glad I'm not alone in the everyone must/will get it and it's not a big deal for 99.9% of us :)

Thought I'd gone completely mad, but it's everyone else!! :)

The charts show in Spain for instance this is happening and Sweden without a lockdown!!
 
swedens tax rate is about 65% and their sales tax is 25%.
they also only have about 6 million
people opposed to out 350 million.


10.2 million, compare to 328Mil USA so X 32 is close enough.

So 29,408 Sweden vs 22,133 USA

First case Sweden 3rd March, USA 10th Martch.

So 1500 deaths yesterday x 7 without allowing for that's increasing =

Sweden 29,408 vs USA in 7days time approx 32,633

Within 10% call it a tie so far!!
 
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