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luisHK said:
Uh ?!? any link to share on that issue ?
But yes, policy here is to count any death touching someone testing positive to coronavirus as a coronavirus death, yet, the argument is how much underestimated is that number, not the contrary.
A lady aged 107y o just died in Italy - from the coronavirus- another tragic early death indeed.
Still the total death in Italy, Spain and Ecuador, especially in elderly residences for the first 2 countries, appear way higher than usual. It will be interesting to see how they add up after one year (see if a lot of the victims were supposed to die within a few months anyway)
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Uk weekly deaths increasing by 60% of the cv claimed deaths.

Stanford antibody study for California on google feed, 50 to 80 times more have it than claimed tested, which puts inline with Flu, F!u x 2 at worst also nearer over than media are making out.

If not for lockdowns we'd of all had and moved on already :(
 
luisHK said:
Uh ?!? any link to share on that issue ?
But yes, policy here is to count any death touching someone testing positive to coronavirus as a coronavirus death, yet, the argument is how much underestimated is that number, not the contrary.
A lady aged 107y o just died in Italy - from the coronavirus- another tragic early death indeed.
Still the total death in Italy, Spain and Ecuador, especially in elderly residences for the first 2 countries, appear way higher than usual. It will be interesting to see how they add up after one year (see if a lot of the victims were supposed to die within a few months anyway)
More...

Uk weekly deaths increasing by 60% of the cv claimed deaths.

Stanford antibody study for California on google feed, 50 to 80 times more have it than claimed tested, which puts inline with Flu, F!u x 2 at worst also nearer over than media are making out.

If not for lockdowns we'd of all had and moved on already :(
 
Retestes going positive after negative test options...

1. Faulty test
2. Tests are looking for a y Corona virus there not that clever, there are many so might of caught a different virus although similar.

Its nothing ignore.
 
southall said:
Sweden already at equivalent of 30,000 US deaths, if you scale up the population.

They have no plans to flatten the curve. Its just going to keep going up until they either reach herd immunity or they introduce more serious lockdowns.

Herd imunity for a country the size of sweden will happen at around 50,000 deaths.

Maybe they are ok with that and think it is a price worth paying, or maybe they think they can hide the vulnerable and let the rest of the population reach immunity so the totals deaths will be lower some how. They dont allow care home visits at the moment.
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Considering what Sweden has been doing to itself for the last decade or so, I don't think they care at this point.
 
Turveyd said:
Stanford antibody study for California on google feed, 50 to 80 times more have it than claimed tested, which puts inline with Flu, F!u x 2 at worst also nearer over than media are making out.
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Don't believe the statistics, they can be massaged to give the impression the writers want:

Look at the raw numbers:

In the Stanford study just 50 people out of 3,300 tested had anti bodies.

"The group's analysis indicated 50 blood samples from the study (3300 people), or 1.5% of the total, tested positive for either immunoglobulin M (IgM), the antibody that the body produces when the infection occurs and that disappears after several weeks, or immunoglobulin G (IgG), the antibody that appears later, stays longer and provides the basis for immunity.

After weighting to match the county population by race, sex and ZIP code, the prevalence rate was adjusted to 2.81%, according to the study. Other factors, including uncertainties relating to the sensitivity of the tests that were used, contributed to the range of up to 4.16%."

https://paloaltoonline.com/news/202...ents-have-likely-been-infected-by-coronavirus


This means only 5 million people in the US have been infected so far.

And probably even less than that given there were other problems with this study (see next post by Whynottrade)
 
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southall said:
Don't believe the statistics, they can be massaged to give the impression the writers want:

Look at the raw numbers:

In the Stanford study just 50 people out of 3,300 tested had anti bodies.

"The group's analysis indicated 50 blood samples from the study (3300 people), or 1.5% of the total, tested positive for either immunoglobulin M (IgM), the antibody that the body produces when the infection occurs and that disappears after several weeks, or immunoglobulin G (IgG), the antibody that appears later, stays longer and provides the basis for immunity.

After weighting to match the county population by race, sex and ZIP code, the prevalence rate was adjusted to 2.81%, according to the study. Other factors, including uncertainties relating to the sensitivity of the tests that were used, contributed to the range of up to 4.16%."

https://paloaltoonline.com/news/202...ents-have-likely-been-infected-by-coronavirus


This means only 5 million people in the US have been infected so far.
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southall said:
Don't believe the statistics, they can be massaged to give the impression the writers want:

Look at the raw numbers:

In the Stanford study just 50 people out of 3,300 tested had anti bodies.

"The group's analysis indicated 50 blood samples from the study (3300 people), or 1.5% of the total, tested positive for either immunoglobulin M (IgM), the antibody that the body produces when the infection occurs and that disappears after several weeks, or immunoglobulin G (IgG), the antibody that appears later, stays longer and provides the basis for immunity.

After weighting to match the county population by race, sex and ZIP code, the prevalence rate was adjusted to 2.81%, according to the study. Other factors, including uncertainties relating to the sensitivity of the tests that were used, contributed to the range of up to 4.16%."

https://paloaltoonline.com/news/202...ents-have-likely-been-infected-by-coronavirus


This means only 5 million people in the US have been infected so far.

And probably even less than that given there were other problems with this study (see next post by Whynottrade)
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this is roughly inline w/the Iceland study
 
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