Sweden Coasts through Corona. Open for Business. 0.1% Death Rate. Herd Immunity imminent

[Hotcakes]

Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach ‘herd immunity’ in weeks

• Unlike its neighbors, Sweden did not impose a lockdown amid the coronavirus outbreak.
• The strategy — aimed at building a broad-base of immunity while protecting at-risk groups like the elderly — has proved controversial.
• But Sweden’s chief epidemiologist has said “herd immunity” could be reached in Stockholm within weeks.

Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach herd immunity and we believe that is why we’re seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling (testing for the coronavirus) more and more.”

“Unfortunately the mortality rate is high due to the introduction (of the virus) in elderly care homes and we are investigating the cause of that,” he said.

The major part of Sweden’s 15,322 confirmed cases are in Stockholm and its surrounding areas, with very small incidences of the virus in the rest of Sweden — a country of around 10 million that has a low population density outside its urban hubs.

The number of cases in Sweden is almost double that in neighboring Denmark (it has 8,108 cases and has reported 370 deaths) and Finland (with just over 4,000 cases and 141 deaths) that imposed strict lockdown measures. Since their populations are each about 5 million — half of Sweden’s — the rates are about the same, although the comparison could be skewed by testing numbers in each country. Still, Sweden’s 1,937 death toll is far higher than its neighbors.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-...ockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html


By the numbers:

1) Sweden population = 10 million
2) 20% estimated have antibodies = 2 million
3) total number of COVID19 deaths = 2,000 ppl

Death rate % = 2,000 / 2 million = 0.1% (not 1%. 0.1%).

Basically the same as the average flu season. And this was with ZERO SHUTDOWN. ZERO LOCKDOWN. ZERO MARTIAL LAW. Sweden just isolated vulnerable populations and let this weak ass Whu Flu pass through their population.

Enjoy ur fear porn.

 

[gwb-trading]

This is just crap being pushed by the Swedish Health Minister who is shortly going to be without a job.

He has a model making wild claims about "herd immunity" being arrived at -- but is unwilling to provide or disclose the model to anyone for evaluation. This is junk science at its worse while the death rate in Sweden is much higher than its neighbors.

Actually sampling shows that 3% to 10% of the people living in urban areas of Sweden have positive antibodies for COVID-19. Way below the figures needed for hear immunity he is claiming. And way below his 20% country-wide claims.

Trying to claim the death rate of COVID-19 is the same as the flu is absurd. Anyone making this type of claim needs to have their head examined.

 

[Hotcakes]

This is just crap being pushed by the Swedish Health Minister who is shortly going to be without a job.

He has a model making wild claims about "herd immunity" being arrived at -- but is unwilling to provide or disclose the model to anyone for evaluation. This is junk science at its worse while the death rate in Sweden is much higher than its neighbors.

Actually sampling shows that 3% to 10% of the people living in urban areas of Sweden have positive antibodies for COVID-19. Way below the figures needed for hear immunity he is claiming. And way below his 20% country-wide claims.

Trying to claim the death rate of COVID-19 is the same as the flu is absurd. Anyone making this type of claim needs to have their head examined.

Sure sure. Anything that shows COVID19 is a just a flu you designate as "Crap"

Enjoy ur fear. U have ZERO EVIDENCE of the fear ur mongering.

Where's ur evidence?

Based on what?

Ur just talking out ur ass as usual.

POST EVIDENCE>

 

[gwb-trading]

Sure sure. Anything that shows COVID19 is a just a flu you designate as "Crap"

Enjoy ur fear. U have ZERO EVIDENCE of the fear ur mongering.

Where's ur evidence?

Based on what?

Ur just talking out ur ass as usual.

POST EVIDENCE>

I have provided endless evidence with statistics and math from reliable sources. Go read my previous posts and educate yourself.

 

[Snarkhund]

Well, if you are a person who died in Sweden so the government could keep the country open it does kind of suck.

I like Trump's approach. Try to preserve life without causing permanent damage to the lives of everyone who has not become sick. There is an optimum equilibrium point there of course.

 

[Hotcakes]

The 0.1% flu death number is bs.

CDC estimates 10% on high end catch the flu every year. That's 35 million Americans.

X 0.1% death rate thats 35,000 Americans who die of the flu every year.

In bad flu years, upwards of 90k Americans die of the flu. So that's 0.3% death rate in bad flu years.

Guv cumou said covid19 deaths were 0.5% yesterday.
And that's with bs inflated numbers as docs and nurses encouraged to label every death a covid19 death for federal money. NY state is the worst state with the worst city in the country. Most densely populated.

This is all hype.

 

[Overnight]

Forget testing for Covid. At this point, the only test that matters is the COVID antibody test. Everyone should be getting THAT test, because it is the ONLY one that matters. Because EVERYONE is going to get the COVID virus until a vaccine is developed.

You can test for COVID asymptomatically and negative 10 ten times in 10 weeks, and what does that mean? It means nada, zilch, zip. But if instead you were tested for the antibody and showed up positive as an asympto, you could stop testing that person.

Case CLOSED.

 

[wildchild]

This is just crap being pushed by the Swedish Health Minister who is shortly going to be without a job.

He has a model making wild claims about "herd immunity" being arrived at -- but is unwilling to provide or disclose the model to anyone for evaluation. This is junk science at its worse while the death rate in Sweden is much higher than its neighbors.

Actually sampling shows that 3% to 10% of the people living in urban areas of Sweden have positive antibodies for COVID-19. Way below the figures needed for hear immunity he is claiming. And way below his 20% country-wide claims.

Trying to claim the death rate of COVID-19 is the same as the flu is absurd. Anyone making this type of claim needs to have their head examined.

Do you enjoy being wrong?

 

[wildchild]

Forget testing for Covid. At this point, the only test that matters is the COVID antibody test. Everyone should be getting THAT test, because it is the ONLY one that matters. Because EVERYONE is going to get the COVID virus until a vaccine is developed.

This post is less moronic than some of your other posts, but it is still contains many moronic beliefs.

I am not getting any test. It is my Constitution right not to be subjected to any tests and I will refuse any government overreach that says I have to.

Is that clear?

 

[Overnight]

This post is less moronic than some of your other posts, but it is still contains many moronic beliefs.

I am not getting any test. It is my Constitution right not to be subjected to any tests and I will refuse any government overreach that says I have to.

Is that clear?

I was not speaking to you directly, and could give less than two shits about your belief system. That you felt the need to interject into a conversation only AFTER I posted in it and poke at me and gwb directly speaks volumes about how you feel about science.

Science says, only the antibody tests matter now. If you disagree with that, then so be it. In the immortal words of an old gamer friend of mine, GO BACK TO FOREITH GRAIDE!

Is that clear?

LOL