Susan Sarandon is a total idiot

[wildchild]

A lot of people on the streets are there by choice. They like to drink and the like to drug.

I mean, if you are a complete drug addict, where you expect to end up at? On Wall Street?

I visited a buddy of mine in Santa Cruz a few years ago. Now this dude is a complete hippy who lives in a tiny apartment. He has a job that pays him just enough to get by and he spends most of his days getting baked.

From that, you can get an idea what this guys politics are. Even he was complaining that all young wanders come in. They live in tents, they surf, they pan handle, they do drugs, the steal things, and if they ask for money and you dont give it to them, they threaten violence, and on occasion do beat people up.

The liberal leaders of California think its cute. They say 'Ohhh that is just them living their truth'.

 

[kmgilroy89]

Hey Turd Magnet, Ronald Reagan hasnt been in office in almost 35 years. This was not a problem when he left office. In fact, crime and the general demise of the inner cities in the US reversed and the cities got better during his tenure.

So according to you, Ronald Reagan took an action in the 1980s and its result was not felt until the 2020s. That is one hell of a delayed reaction.

I think a more likely explanation is you are completely full of shit.

Getting a little personal here, no? And yes, the policies from the 1980's are having an impact to this day. There was a massive spike in homelessness then and we never re-institutionalized these people. We kicked them out to the streets. This homeless problem didn't just pop up during the pandemic even if there's been an uptick.

 

[kmgilroy89]

Unfortunately, many of these people on drugs are often lost causes. As if fentanyl wasn't bad enough, the dealers are cutting their products with xylazine "aka tranq" now. Google Images xylazine amputations when not on a full stomach. That will show you what addicted people are willing to live with in order to keep getting high. To an addict's brain, drugs are more important than keeping their arms/legs.

 

[wildchild]

Getting a little personal here, no? And yes, the policies from the 1980's are having an impact to this day. There was a massive spike in homelessness then and we never re-institutionalized these people. We kicked them out to the streets. This homeless problem didn't just pop up during the pandemic even if there's been an uptick.

What do you mean I am getting personal?

At least you tried to reason through your response which is better than 90% of the posters on here. That does not change the fact that the argument that this is Ronald Reagan's fault is weak at best. Since Reagan has been in office the democrats have had 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, and almost 2 years of Biden. In many of those years those Presidents controlled both houses of Congress. If it was such a concern, why didnt they do something about it?

The fact remains that California is a total mess of a state and the overwhelming blame can be attributed directly to democrat policies.

 

[kmgilroy89]

What do you mean I am getting personal?

At least you tried to reason through your response which is better than 90% of the posters on here. That does not change the fact that the argument that this is Ronald Reagan's fault is weak at best. Since Reagan has been in office the democrats have had 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, and almost 2 years of Biden. In many of those years those Presidents controlled both houses of Congress. If it was such a concern, why didnt they do something about it?

The fact remains that California is a total mess of a state and the overwhelming blame can be attributed directly to democrat policies.

I said you're getting personal, because you addressed me as Turd Magnet lol. My point was that the main policies that created this situated in the first place were put in place under Reagan, not by far-left politicians. The 1980's are when homelessness exploded, because we didn't want to institutionalize the mentally ill anymore. They said that those places were inhumane when in reality it was an excuse for the government to save money/cut taxes. As for the harm-reduction policies of the left, I think the jury is still out. Studies have shown that decriminalization worked well in Portugal. Switzerland also gives addicts heroin. I thought it was a poor move for Oregon to do as an individual state though and posted about that here at the time, because it attracts addicts/criminals from other states to move there. When you're competing with other states you really don't want to be the most liberal/soft on crime state, because in a free country it's easy to attract the wrong residents coming from tougher on crime states. As for what we do next? I support reversing Reagan's policies and re-institutionalizing the mentally ill.

 

[Overnight]

Getting a little personal here, no? And yes, the policies from the 1980's are having an impact to this day. There was a massive spike in homelessness then and we never re-institutionalized these people. We kicked them out to the streets. This homeless problem didn't just pop up during the pandemic even if there's been an uptick.

By that metric, then these problems all started with FDR's "new deal" policies which introduced Social Security and welfare programs. So Reagan had nothing to do with it. Blame the guy with polio.

 

[kmgilroy89]

By that metric, then these problems all started with FDR's "new deal" policies which introduced Social Security and welfare programs. So Reagan had nothing to do with it. Blame the guy with polio.

Both parties keeping the deinstitutionalization policies enacted by Ronald Reagan are the top source of the problem. How’s that? Do you realize that it’s estimated that 20% of the homeless population has schizophrenia? What in FDR’s New Deal caused the massive spike for them to be thrown in the streets in the 1980’s? You think these people are giving up their arms and legs for their addiction, because they received welfare from the government at some point?

 

[Overnight]

Both parties keeping the deinstitutionalization policies enacted by Ronald Reagan are the top source of the problem. How’s that? Do you realize that it’s estimated that 20% of the homeless population has schizophrenia? What in FDR’s New Deal caused the massive spike for them to be thrown in the streets in the 1980’s? You think these people are giving up their arms and legs for their addiction, because they received welfare from the government at some point?

Because you are saying that Reagan policies from the 1980s are affecting people 40 years later, in the 2020s. Therefore, I say that people in the 1980s are being affected by the New Deal policies from the 1930s and 1940s. Ergo, does it not mean that people in the 2020s are being affected through the FDR policies from the 1930s?

 

[kmgilroy89]

Because you are saying that Reagan policies from the 1980s are affecting people 40 years later, in the 2020s. Therefore, I say that people in the 1980s are being affected by the New Deal policies from the 1930s and 1940s. Ergo, does it not mean that people in the 2020s are being affected through the FDR policies from the 1930s?

People are definitely being impacted by FDR’s New Deal policies to this day. Social Security lifted a lot of seniors out of poverty. It’s structured like a pyramid scheme and we can debate the incentives created behind the welfare state. However, I don’t think those arguments apply very well to the homeless population. It simply doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to talk about the welfare state for people who have absolutely nothing. Their brains are in a completely different mode than the rational human mind in which economic theory is generally based on. On the other hand, Reagan’s policies had a clear and direct impact which continue to this day, because they haven’t been corrected.

 

[FortuneTeller]

I visited a buddy of mine in Santa Cruz a few years ago. Now this dude is a complete hippy who lives in a tiny apartment. He has a job that pays him just enough to get by and he spends most of his days getting baked.

From that, you can get an idea what this guys politics are. Even he was complaining that all young wanders come in. They live in tents, they surf, they pan handle, they do drugs, the steal things, and if they ask for money and you dont give it to them, they threaten violence, and on occasion do beat people up.

The liberal leaders of California think its cute. They say 'Ohhh that is just them living their truth'.

Yep. I've been talking to quite a few people who live in Cali lately on YouTube and they want the heck out of that state. They are not happy about the Politics there at all. They say things are really messed up with all the homeless people, ect. Drugs, crime, all of it is really bad. One guy who I was talking to said he had moved over ten times and it was the same everywhere he went.